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Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by lawn »

hetman wrote: post #18
lawn wrote: post #12

Since I discovered Slackware I will never go back to Ubuntu or Debian.

What are some of your main reasons?

My first gripe is the repository system. It might sound silly for a lot of people but it's not as silly as it sounds. Firstly you don't have to deal with the changes that debian do to some of the packages in the repo (for example the OpenSSL security holes). Secondly if you need two different versions it can be a pain in the ass to get it to work and thirdly you don't have to install a ton of dependencies if all you want is a small program.

The two last reasons are so much easier and faster to do by hand and it was such a breeze to do in Slackware compared to when I ran into it in Ubuntu.

The second thing that I like a lot more with Slackware is the config style; to go into a file and to edit it directly instead of doing it GUI-style. I guess you could configure it in the files directly in Ubuntu too, but Slackware is basically built around editing these files for configuration and so I've find that they're a lot easier to edit; great documentation and easy to find.

Ubunut is a great way to easily get a working linux up and running without much configuration needed, but if you have the time and energy to sit down and tinker with it a bit like I had then Slackware is pretty easy and straightforward too.

Lastly I think that if you run Ubuntu, you will learn exactly that: Ubuntu. But if you run Slackware you will learn more linux with only a few Slackware specific parts like the startup scripts and the package tools - I can't honestly think of anything else which is unique to Slackware (the startup scripts are actually BSD style but meh). Which is a good thing if you want to learn linux like me.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by sgt »

My one colleague has an Ubuntu machine and every time he upgrades something breaks. Be it a 3g modem driver, or a graphics card driver or something else. This is exactly why I tell my non-geeky friends not to install Linux, because they just want something that works, not something they have to spend time on to get the basics sorted out (or worse: call me to fix it).

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by AndyKelley »

jamesbritt wrote: post #28
Flam wrote: post #7

Not me. I'm still on 8.04 :/

Same here. For most things it makes little difference, but over time I'm finding that some apps I want to install are rather stubborn about their dependencies. So I have a dated vlc, a dated Amarok, etc. I want to update, but I need to do a solid disk image backup of my laptop first in case shit happens. I've been running 9.x or 10.x or so on my desktop, with Trinity KDE3, and have been pretty happy with it; hibernat…

There hasn't been a better media player since Amarok 1.4, and it's no longer in the repository :-(. Even Pana and Clementine which aim to be remakes of Amarok 1.4 fail to meet all of the nice subtleties. And we all know what a piece of shit Amarok 2.x is...

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by SkyMarshal »

lhnn wrote: post #44
SkyMarshal wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't do a full reinstall unless you want to. Just run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in a terminal. (not 'apt-get update' nor 'apt-get upgrade') Or start the Ubuntu Update Manager (System -> Admin -> Update Manager), which will display an option to dist-upgrade when one is available.

dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade the distribution: The difference between dist and normal upgrade is that normal upgrade will not install new packages if required, it will only update existing packages. You have to use some other commands to get an actual Ubuntu version upgrade (I don't know them, but you seem to have the GUI version down.)

Ah you're right, thanks. In fact dist-upgrade should be avoided since it can apparently break dependencies.

After a little digging, the command line to upgrade to the newest Ubuntu version is:

%> sudo apt-get update

%> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core

%> sudo do-release-upgrade

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by zeemonkee »

Two issues I've had - cosmetic ones really (both on a Fujitu Amilo and Acer Aspire One):

1. Upgrade to Qt4 broke Spotify Linux. This is a Spotify, not Ubuntu issue, but just FYI.

2. Compiz Wallpaper is broken. That is, if you had Compiz to show different wallpaper for each workspace, it now just has a blank screen.

Otherwise working OK, nice new fonts and icons, but not amazing. If in doubt probably worth waiting a while for the fixes.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by cdr »

macros wrote: post #42
cdr wrote: post #23

My desktop's been on 10.10 since early September, my first go at a beta release. One the whole I don't think I'd do it again; there's been at least two showstopping bugs. To be fair, one of those (ATI driver incompatibility with new X server version, from what I understand) probably won't be fixed in the final release either.

ATI released new drivers that are compatible with 1.9, working fine for me here so far. Can't wait till the free software drivers get good evergreen support and I can dump the proprietary pain.

After making sure I had everything up to date, the fglrx drivers still do not work on 10.10 for me, sadly. They seem to have fixed the issue for more people, but not everyone.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by ilovelinux »

I noticed when doing a fresh install of 10.10rc (previously using 10.04LTS) that my laptop fan actually changes speed and keeps the laptop significantly cooler temps than 10.04LTS. Laptop is a Toshiba Satellite. I believe 10.10 is also more effecient when viewing system with Powertop. I am happy that I switched to the 10.10 rc. Is there a great difference between the rc and the final version? I noticed the rc version is slightly larger in size.
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