Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight? • Hacker News Board

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by kklimonda » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 4:22 AM UTC

auxbuss wrote: post #27

I would suggest folk don't upgrade to it. They are releasing with a beta version of an Nvidia driver that they switched to only this week. I've been running the 10.10 beta since it was announced, and this beta driver black-screens here unfortunately. I have to run an older driver via a manual install from Nvidia for things to work; the Ubuntu team do not provide an option for this. Even if this problem doesn't affect…

the decision to upgrade to the 260.xx nvidia drivers has been made exactly because earlier drivers have a performance issues related to text rendering (the most likely culprit of high cpu usage when using terminal). You could try changing hinting and smoothing options to see if that helps. Or you could just use nouveau - it got really nice in last 12 months or so.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by macros » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 4:28 AM UTC

cdr wrote: post #23

My desktop's been on 10.10 since early September, my first go at a beta release. One the whole I don't think I'd do it again; there's been at least two showstopping bugs. To be fair, one of those (ATI driver incompatibility with new X server version, from what I understand) probably won't be fixed in the final release either.

ATI released new drivers that are compatible with 1.9, working fine for me here so far. Can't wait till the free software drivers get good evergreen support and I can dump the proprietary pain.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by pan69 » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 4:42 AM UTC

I have made it a custom to stay one release behind with Ubuntu Desktop. When the next version is released (11.04?) I'll upgrade to 10.10. For servers I only use LTS versions.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by lhnn » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 5:56 AM UTC

SkyMarshal wrote: post #37

seltzered wrote: post #32

question: how does the ubuntu upgrade process work? do you reinstall everything from scratch? or can you just apt-get your way to a new release?

You don't do a full reinstall unless you want to. Just run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' in a terminal. (not 'apt-get update' nor 'apt-get upgrade') Or start the Ubuntu Update Manager (System -> Admin -> Update Manager), which will display an option to dist-upgrade when one is available.

dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade the distribution: The difference between dist and normal upgrade is that normal upgrade will not install new packages if required, it will only update existing packages.

You have to use some other commands to get an actual Ubuntu version upgrade (I don't know them, but you seem to have the GUI version down.)

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by lhnn » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 5:57 AM UTC

LTS+1 seems to be a tough release for Ubuntu, since they hold back on letting bleeding stuff through on the LTS.

11.04 should have fewer bugs and major changes, I would THINK.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by zengr » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 7:03 AM UTC

Just did.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by auxbuss » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 8:54 AM UTC

Flam wrote: post #7

Not me. I'm still on 8.04 :/

As well as the 10.10 laptop mentioned elsewhere, I have a laptop on 9.04, which is rock-solid. I won't be upgrading it. It will likely reach its eol on 9.04. Most stable and reliable release since 5.10, in my experience.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by auxbuss » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 9:03 AM UTC

lawn wrote: post #12

Since I discovered Slackware I will never go back to Ubuntu or Debian.

I've been testing Fedora for the past couple of weeks. My reason for considering a switch is my tiring with the serious regressions that I've encountered with every Ubuntu release. I know, the grass is always greener, but I feel I ought to give it a try.

I'm also wary of Shuttleworth's commercializing of Ubuntu. I have no problem with a benevolent dictator, but Shuttleworth aim isn't benevolent.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by whimsy » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 9:08 AM UTC

spicyj wrote: post #29

TamDenholm wrote: post #2

I wont be upgrading upon release mainly because the servers always get slammed as soon as a new release comes out. However I'm not all that excited about the new version anyway, i'm sure there is plenty nice new small things that'll make it better in some way but theres no major new thing that will get me to upgrade. Eventually i'll upgrade at some point, but no rush.

That's what the BitTorrent release is for. It actually gets faster as more people try to download…

...assuming they're not just leeching.

Re: Will you upgrade to Ubuntu 10.10 tonight?

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Post by acqq » Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 9:08 AM UTC

pan69 wrote: post #43

I have made it a custom to stay one release behind with Ubuntu Desktop. When the next version is released (11.04?) I'll upgrade to 10.10. For servers I only use LTS versions.

It can be a good recipe if you just need the system that works and if everything was already working.

However, on my computers, on the hardware side, I always expected the improvements of the new version. Then I've discovered that simple upgrades can even break the software side of the distro (the interaction between their own parts), as it seems that the upgrades are not enough tested compared to the clean installs. I've found that it's much more probable to have everything working correctly if I just keep the home partition but install the new release from the scratch. But this is also more work than it's convenient, for doing every six months.

Additionally, I've found that security updates are still behaving better when run from the console than from the GUI. It shouldn't be so. The GUI updates should not be so annoying and attention consuming but really do things in the background.