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crooks and con men have been doing as such long before digital computers.
Those people generally don't put it on their resumes, having Facebook on your resume is now something that makes it end up in the trash.
Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign
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Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign
#52Wow, a left-of-center party more worried about change from within than they are about losing the election to the right. What a bizarre and unprecedented thing. Thankfully that could never happen in my home country, the USA.
Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign
#53This is disturbing for the following reasons: 1. It alerts us to the possibility of fake political adverts. Do I (hypothetically)see an ad purporting to be a Tory ad promising something that will damage me, placed by a non-Tory actor? 2. Are unknown actors placing adverts which cause discord and dislike? 3. How do we solve this problem? Where FB is not regulated it will be impossible to knowingly audit the materials…
Fake advertising for the purpose of creating discord is as old as political advertising. I had a friend run for state legislature in the 1990s, his opponent sent people around targeted neighborhoods passing out fake flyers for my friend's campaign. They used his name and photo, but attributed positions he did not hold to him. I imagine before cheap printing, it was gossip. I'm sure it's been the case since democracy…
Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign
#54Wow, a left-of-center party more worried about change from within than they are about losing the election to the right. What a bizarre and unprecedented thing. Thankfully that could never happen in my home country, the USA.
It helps that you do not have a real left-of-center party to begin with.
Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign
#55Wow, a left-of-center party more worried about change from within than they are about losing the election to the right. What a bizarre and unprecedented thing. Thankfully that could never happen in my home country, the USA.
It helps that you do not have a real left-of-center party to begin with.
Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign
#56This is disturbing for the following reasons: 1. It alerts us to the possibility of fake political adverts. Do I (hypothetically)see an ad purporting to be a Tory ad promising something that will damage me, placed by a non-Tory actor? 2. Are unknown actors placing adverts which cause discord and dislike? 3. How do we solve this problem? Where FB is not regulated it will be impossible to knowingly audit the materials…
Fake advertising for the purpose of creating discord is as old as political advertising. I had a friend run for state legislature in the 1990s, his opponent sent people around targeted neighborhoods passing out fake flyers for my friend's campaign. They used his name and photo, but attributed positions he did not hold to him. I imagine before cheap printing, it was gossip. I'm sure it's been the case since democracy…
Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign
#57So they ran ultra left wing ads micro targeted at Corbyn and similar supporters so these people thought everyone was seeing them. I really wonder if micro targeting should just be switched off for everyone during political campaigns. It allows political parties to do exactly this, be literally all things to all people rather than genuine in their messaging. How can we educate people this is happening? I’m certain it’…
Switching off microtargeting is a really interesting idea. I'd also love to see more disclosure. At least, "Why am I seeing this?" and "Who else is seeing this?" reports. But hopefully a full public dump of who's pushing what messages to whom.
You can determine/define a minimum group size, and regulation that prohibits finer-grained targeting.
This is something that happens in many other fields, for example to prevent insurance policies from becoming individualized cost-spreading (with front-loading) plus profit-margin.
(Or, should be happening. And this is one of the battles around regulation. When people see their costs skyrocketing, they should ask themselves whether that is the "cost of regulation", or rather the cost of its absence.)
It can become quite difficult to micromanage through regulation. Sometimes, that's necessary, e.g. with pollutants whose individual effects vary dramatically.
But sometimes, it's possible to observe boundaries beyond which negative effects become quite pronounced with escalating proclivity. You draw the line there, or a bit on the safe side, and say, "Thou shall not pass."
If people get the choice, as opposed to being dictated to, I think that they are going to find that in most domains, they don't want to be micro-targeted. And maybe, we will come up with laws and regulations to stop it -- or substantially hinder it, at least.
It can even feed into a healthy society. How will you ever learn of, and possibly experience, anything new and "out of your comfort zone", if you are constantly being algorithmically channeled back into it?
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Fake advertising for the purpose of creating discord is as old as political advertising. I had a friend run for state legislature in the 1990s, his opponent sent people around targeted neighborhoods passing out fake flyers for my friend's campaign. They used his name and photo, but attributed positions he did not hold to him. I imagine before cheap printing, it was gossip. I'm sure it's been the case since democracy…
People often suggest that the Internet is a problem in terms of disinformation, but I'd argue in many cases that the Internet actually helps. In pre-Internet days, it was difficult to get someone's views in their own words, especially in real-time. All information was filtered through various sources before being passed onto the consumer. Now, it's straightforward to check their website, or their twitter, or their yo…
Solution: run ad blockers and noscript while they're still legal. Install them on all family members devices.
Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign
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If you can speak to me one on one and tell me why I should vote for you, and you convince me - then you deserve my vote. Microtargeting allows you to do that at scale. If I care about a certain issue and you advertise to me in a way that matches up to the things I care about, and present ideas that I agree with, then you are campaigning correctly. If a politician saw that I cared about the environment and argued for…
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