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Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

crooks and con men have been doing as such long before digital computers.

Social engineering is more two sided. You are trying to get something out of these people, like something very concrete. This is more propaganda.

Propaganda also may try to get things out of people: consent, votes, etc.

Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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This is disturbing for the following reasons: 1. It alerts us to the possibility of fake political adverts. Do I (hypothetically)see an ad purporting to be a Tory ad promising something that will damage me, placed by a non-Tory actor? 2. Are unknown actors placing adverts which cause discord and dislike? 3. How do we solve this problem? Where FB is not regulated it will be impossible to knowingly audit the materials…

This is why I left Facebook.

The feasible subversion of democracy is pretty frightening.

Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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This is disturbing for the following reasons: 1. It alerts us to the possibility of fake political adverts. Do I (hypothetically)see an ad purporting to be a Tory ad promising something that will damage me, placed by a non-Tory actor? 2. Are unknown actors placing adverts which cause discord and dislike? 3. How do we solve this problem? Where FB is not regulated it will be impossible to knowingly audit the materials…

Thank goodness for adblockers :)

Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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Just another example on why marketing and advertisement is a scourge upon society, it is far to easy to manipulate from the background without oversight or any ethical or moral considerations and is known to be highly effective at making people act against even their own self interests.

Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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post #20

Programming people seems to be the next frontier of programming.

crooks and con men have been doing as such long before digital computers.

Those people generally don't put it on their resumes, having Facebook on your resume is now something that makes it end up in the trash.

Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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Paywall stops me from getting past the top. But, just wow. If it accurately reflects what happened, well, they're going to have to designate a new category of shitstorm. One that, I hope, sucks in FB and forces some true accounting and reckoning, not just of this circumstance but as a fundamental part of the platform and business practices.

In many instances, such as here, they don't make you verify an email sign up. Always worth a try. For grins I always make up an email address at the site's own domain.

Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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This is disturbing for the following reasons: 1. It alerts us to the possibility of fake political adverts. Do I (hypothetically)see an ad purporting to be a Tory ad promising something that will damage me, placed by a non-Tory actor? 2. Are unknown actors placing adverts which cause discord and dislike? 3. How do we solve this problem? Where FB is not regulated it will be impossible to knowingly audit the materials…

This is why I left Facebook. The feasible subversion of democracy is pretty frightening.

Isn't it more an argument that you should ensure that you ensure information you act on comes from credible sources.

Subversion and deception are everywhere online now and we live in a perpetual psy-ops nightmare.

By which I mean leaving facebook is a start, but there's a lot more to protecting yourself against false information.

Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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This is disturbing for the following reasons: 1. It alerts us to the possibility of fake political adverts. Do I (hypothetically)see an ad purporting to be a Tory ad promising something that will damage me, placed by a non-Tory actor? 2. Are unknown actors placing adverts which cause discord and dislike? 3. How do we solve this problem? Where FB is not regulated it will be impossible to knowingly audit the materials…

Fake advertising for the purpose of creating discord is as old as political advertising.

I had a friend run for state legislature in the 1990s, his opponent sent people around targeted neighborhoods passing out fake flyers for my friend's campaign. They used his name and photo, but attributed positions he did not hold to him.

I imagine before cheap printing, it was gossip. I'm sure it's been the case since democracy started.

Re: Labour HQ used Facebook ads to deceive Jeremy Corbyn during election campaign

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switching off microtargeting is a really interesting idea. I'd also love to see more disclosure. At least, "Why am I seeing this?" and "Who else is seeing this?" reports. But hopefully a full public dump of who's pushing what messages to whom.

That already exists. If you click the menu icon next to an ad on Facebook you can select "Why am I seeing this?". You can also see all the advertisers who have targeted you on https://www.facebook.com/ads/preferences/ .

It's kinda useless, though. They give you the most general of the targeting - all mine say stuff like "men in the United States" when they've clearly got additional very specific stuff enabled.
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