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Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by atupis »

whalesalad wrote: post #17
emilsedgh wrote: post #14

Microsoft should just make Github open source. It would be a great PR move and an amazing build of trust. I don't know why Github was not open source to begin with. Why do companies still think source code is a big deal? This is not Google Search or some advanced AI.

Great PR move? Amazing build of trust? Microsoft bought GitHub for over seven billion dollars. You don't buy something for that kind of cash unless it has that kind of value . Saying they 'should' do something as though there is a problem is silly. Engineers here on HN are so quick to say what someone "needs to do" something... but in response to what? What problem are you identifying? A vocal minority of engineers h…

Github value comes from userbase not the platform which could copied pretty easily.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by EpicEng »

NullPrefix wrote: post #38
EpicEng wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I think most people Based on... what exactly? That's a big claim to make without any data.

Key word being "think". OP is saying his personal biased opinion.

Well, yeah, and I'm questioning why OP would "think" that. Just because you have an opinion doesn't make it reasonable.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by sdesol »

bovermyer wrote: post #43
superflyguy wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, and also...a lie? Or he thinks the 250,000 projects migrated to gitlab within 24 hours of the news that Microsoft was going anywhere near GitHub is a small number.

That IS a small number. Consider the context.

Yeah I really think people are trying to read way too much into things. The only true bellwether in my opinion, are influential open source projects leaving GitHub for something else, like self hosting with GitLab/Bitbucket/etc.

If nodejs, google, and other big names/organizations decides to leave, then I think it is time for Microsoft to worry.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by kjax »

qz3 wrote: post #44
eklavya wrote: post #24

Ever since I heard of "Monaco" the online code editor which is used in VSCode. I always assumed Microsoft will eventually come up with a completely online IDE >> deploy toolchain like a GitHub on steroids. I think this acquisition is pretty much all about that. Nobody seems to have mentioned this yet though, at least not that I have read of.

An online toolchain would be a nice concept in theory, but at least on my laptop, performance is still an issue. Online IDEs still eat up a lot more resources.

WASM might help make them a lot more performant, and I think online editors could be a place where it really shines.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by detaro »

EpicEng wrote: post #52
NullPrefix wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Key word being "think". OP is saying his personal biased opinion.

Well, yeah, and I'm questioning why OP would "think" that. Just because you have an opinion doesn't make it reasonable.

So you think it's more reasonable to assume most of the migrating projects didn't mirror, but deleted themselves from Github with only a few days warning? That (IMHO) would point even more to it mainly being small, mostly 1-person projects where there's no community to consider.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by mythrwy »

bovermyer wrote: post #43
superflyguy wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, and also...a lie? Or he thinks the 250,000 projects migrated to gitlab within 24 hours of the news that Microsoft was going anywhere near GitHub is a small number.

That IS a small number. Consider the context.

Not for 24 hours it isn't.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by jhall1468 »

dawnerd wrote: post #40
beberlei wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a few hundred thousand repositories of the 85 million reported Github repositories is really not much, see https://github.com/ten at the bottom for the number.

of those 85 million how many are actually active and not just placeholder empty repos or automated mirrors for wordpress/jquery plugins? Not on anyones side here but if the top 250k repos switched, that would be really bad news. I think it's more important to compare size and popularity of the repos than just what the % is.

Of those that switched, how many were backup mirrors vs actually switching to the Gitlab platform?

We can only guesstimate with the data we have.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by NicoJuicy »

marricks wrote: post #18
jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

I’m more willing to believe the openly viewable GitLab migration tracker, which shows several thousand projects migrated. Just another way Gitlab is nice is the openly viewable statistics versus a generalization. https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/03/movingtogitlab/

One statement doesn't exclude the other

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by crtasm »

superflyguy wrote: post #33
jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

Interesting, and also...a lie? Or he thinks the 250,000 projects migrated to gitlab within 24 hours of the news that Microsoft was going anywhere near GitHub is a small number.

I wonder how many people/organisations own those 250k projects, I assume it is far less than 250k.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by penagwin »

mythrwy wrote: post #56
bovermyer wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That IS a small number. Consider the context.

Not for 24 hours it isn't.

Right, but I doubt it'll continue at such a rate. This kind of stuff happens a lot (netflix making it harder to use VPNs, the recent facebook stuff, etc), "mass of people leave" but in reality it's a very small group, who are rather loud. Plus, mirroring isn't the same as leaving (IMO). To me it's more of a precaution.
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