Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

Post by arrrg » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 10:45 PM UTC

m52go wrote: post #35

johnny313 wrote: post #28

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> Folks, the number of shooting crimes (including school shootings) in the United States is going down. This is not supported by other analyses that look at the issue. FiveThirtyEight looked at several measures of school shootings / mass shootings and came to the opposite conclusion. [0] [0] https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/no-matter-how-you-measu...

Then we need to figure out which numbers are correct. That shouldn't be rocket science. But either way, hysteria still isn't the way forward...it never is. I won't attempt to debate any of the points made in your article, as I'm not authority on the subject myself, but thanks for linking it. However, you might find this article written by a former member of the FiveThirtyEight team interesting: https://www.washington…

Post by wnevets » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 10:47 PM UTC

Post by tacomonstrous » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 10:49 PM UTC

m52go wrote: post #16

just_testing wrote: post #15

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This is one of those statistics where there are only two distinct values that matter: - Zero shootings - Too many shootings Any number bigger than zero is too much and we should do our best as a society to decrease it to zero.

That's not my point. My point is that facts are being overlooked in order to exaggerate the trend. Pick a random person on the street and they'll probably tell you the number of shootings in the USA is going up, not down. As I said, action should be taken. But if people are misinformed, the correct action cannot be taken.

Post by wtf_is_up » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 10:49 PM UTC

tomlock wrote: post #34

m52go wrote: post #13

Folks, the number of shooting crimes (including school shootings) in the United States is going down. I know times like this are the worst times to mention this fact, but it's true [0]. The media frenzy makes this look like some kind of out-of-control epidemic, but that's just not the case. This does not mean we should do nothing about them...any shooting is an event that should not happen. But it's important to real…

America is 12th in the world in per-capita gun deaths by country. Should we be satisfied with 12th?

Post by labster » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 10:50 PM UTC

ericmcer wrote: post #24

m52go wrote: post #13

Folks, the number of shooting crimes (including school shootings) in the United States is going down. I know times like this are the worst times to mention this fact, but it's true [0]. The media frenzy makes this look like some kind of out-of-control epidemic, but that's just not the case. This does not mean we should do nothing about them...any shooting is an event that should not happen. But it's important to real…

Do you think this is a coordinated, planned effort by the media, or an organic event? Did they decide they wanted to convince the public that shootings are suddenly a much bigger issue, or did shootings start to be great selling news so now they seek them out aggressively. It kind of reminds me of the late 90's and early 2000's when all of a sudden kids getting abducted became huge news. That forever changed the way…