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Re: Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

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So much for "hacker" news.

Is your contention that "hackers" aren't concerned with current social issues, or that they aren't concerned with the intersection of technology and society, or that they aren't concerned with public safety, or that they aren't interested in new features in widely used software and technological services?

Re: Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

#13
Folks, the number of shooting crimes (including school shootings) in the United States is going down. I know times like this are the worst times to mention this fact, but it's true [0].

The media frenzy makes this look like some kind of out-of-control epidemic, but that's just not the case.

This does not mean we should do nothing about them...any shooting is an event that should not happen. But it's important to realize this fact because too many people are approaching the topic emotionally rather than rationally and proposing extreme reactions to trends that simply aren't as extreme as they perceive them to be.

If you disagree, ask yourself why there are so many cases of shootings in the news all of a sudden. While some recent shootings have indeed been tail-event massacres (i.e., unusually major), many have been events that would otherwise not have attracted much attention (that psycho teacher who shot himself in a closet a few weeks ago comes to mind...why the heck was that on national news?).

[0] https://mises.org/wire/there-are-fewer-school-shootings-now-...

Re: Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

#14
post #12
post #8

So much for "hacker" news.

Is your contention that "hackers" aren't concerned with current social issues, or that they aren't concerned with the intersection of technology and society, or that they aren't concerned with public safety, or that they aren't interested in new features in widely used software and technological services?

Most hackers here either work for Google or really wish they could.

Any opinion voicing opposition to Google will get mercilessly flagged and downvoted.

Re: Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

#15
post #13

Folks, the number of shooting crimes (including school shootings) in the United States is going down. I know times like this are the worst times to mention this fact, but it's true [0]. The media frenzy makes this look like some kind of out-of-control epidemic, but that's just not the case. This does not mean we should do nothing about them...any shooting is an event that should not happen. But it's important to real…

This is one of those statistics where there are only two distinct values that matter:

- Zero shootings - Too many shootings

Any number bigger than zero is too much and we should do our best as a society to decrease it to zero.

Re: Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

#16
post #13

Folks, the number of shooting crimes (including school shootings) in the United States is going down. I know times like this are the worst times to mention this fact, but it's true [0]. The media frenzy makes this look like some kind of out-of-control epidemic, but that's just not the case. This does not mean we should do nothing about them...any shooting is an event that should not happen. But it's important to real…

This is one of those statistics where there are only two distinct values that matter: - Zero shootings - Too many shootings Any number bigger than zero is too much and we should do our best as a society to decrease it to zero.

That's not my point. My point is that facts are being overlooked in order to exaggerate the trend.

Pick a random person on the street and they'll probably tell you the number of shootings in the USA is going up, not down.

As I said, action should be taken. But if people are misinformed, the correct action cannot be taken.

Re: Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

#17
post #14
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your contention that "hackers" aren't concerned with current social issues, or that they aren't concerned with the intersection of technology and society, or that they aren't concerned with public safety, or that they aren't interested in new features in widely used software and technological services?

Most hackers here either work for Google or really wish they could. Any opinion voicing opposition to Google will get mercilessly flagged and downvoted.

It's disingenuous to say that you're voicing opposition when you were saying that the shooting was staged.

Re: Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

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post #14
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your contention that "hackers" aren't concerned with current social issues, or that they aren't concerned with the intersection of technology and society, or that they aren't concerned with public safety, or that they aren't interested in new features in widely used software and technological services?

Most hackers here either work for Google or really wish they could. Any opinion voicing opposition to Google will get mercilessly flagged and downvoted.

FYI, tons of people have turned down offers from Google, worked there and quit, or never wanted to work there in the first place.

Re: Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

#19
post #13

Folks, the number of shooting crimes (including school shootings) in the United States is going down. I know times like this are the worst times to mention this fact, but it's true [0]. The media frenzy makes this look like some kind of out-of-control epidemic, but that's just not the case. This does not mean we should do nothing about them...any shooting is an event that should not happen. But it's important to real…

This is one of those statistics where there are only two distinct values that matter: - Zero shootings - Too many shootings Any number bigger than zero is too much and we should do our best as a society to decrease it to zero.

Reducing the outcomes to a binary, eliminating the ability to perceive incremental improvement, is a toxic, antisocial and anti-intellectual bit of rhetoric.

Re: Google maps shows location of San Bruno shooting

#20
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of those statistics where there are only two distinct values that matter: - Zero shootings - Too many shootings Any number bigger than zero is too much and we should do our best as a society to decrease it to zero.

That's not my point. My point is that facts are being overlooked in order to exaggerate the trend. Pick a random person on the street and they'll probably tell you the number of shootings in the USA is going up, not down. As I said, action should be taken. But if people are misinformed, the correct action cannot be taken.

If we are to continue to reduce the number of events, we need to be more upset about each event.

edit: I agree that we should have the correct information. But it's important to keep pushing to improve.

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