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Craft Beer Is the Strangest, Happiest Economic Story in America

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Love craft beer and I am glad my 125K city has 5 of them, but /r/starterpacks was dead on with this one: https://i.redd.it/fio3hqlmuofy.jpg I will be confused if I ever walk into a microbrewery that doesn't look like that!

Oh lord, this is so true it hurts.

Living in Seattle, you’re never more than maybe 300 yards from a microbrewery— and don’t get me wrong, I love it— but they are all exactly like this.

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I wonder if marijuana will also be able to avoid being crushed and consolidated by monopolies. I don't think the cigarette industry was able to avoid it but I am not well versed on tobacco industry regulations. My gut tells me that since at the end of the day marijuana is an agricultural commodity large players will come to dominate the market. But on the other hand there is a decent variety in strain types and flavo…

There was an interesting article in GQ on this topic a couple months ago: https://www.gq.com/story/the-great-pot-monopoly-mystery

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Summary: benevolent regulation caused the craft beer boom. I call bullshit. Look at this graph [1] and tell me again how great the three-tier system was for market diversity. America went from 700 post-Prohibition breweries to less than 100 in 1978. That was the year homebrewing was legalized, and it's a pretty steady climb back up from there. Brewpubs -- which circumvent the three-tier system and its all-too-easily-locked-up distribution channels -- were legalized in the early 80s and exploding by the late 90s.

I must however agree that this is a happy development. "Beer Wars" is a great little documentary about the phenomenon. [2]

[1] https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-total-number-of-breweries-in-the...

[2] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1326194/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Re: Craft Beer Is the Strangest, Happiest Economic Story in America

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post #35

Love craft beer and I am glad my 125K city has 5 of them, but /r/starterpacks was dead on with this one: https://i.redd.it/fio3hqlmuofy.jpg I will be confused if I ever walk into a microbrewery that doesn't look like that!

No food trucks parked out front, can't be a microbrewery!

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I don’t care much about smoking but I like edibles. From my own experience it’s entirely possible to differentiate your product as an edible and I see others finding brands they like and sticking to them. When I’m with friends buying plants they don’t seem to care as much about strain/grower (but that’s anecdotal).

I think edibles will be mostly taken over by concentrates. Instead of (in WA for ex.) paying $40 for 10 10mg edibles, I’ll pay $20 for enough concentrate to make 80 edibles.

Do you have any good guide? I’d be interested but don’t where to start. I might try if it’s easy enough to make something that doesn’t taste like I’m eating plants.

Re: Craft Beer Is the Strangest, Happiest Economic Story in America

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San Diegan reporting in! It's gotten absolutely ridiculous. They have tapped out the "like eating a cone of pure hops" quintuple imperial IPA market, and now the trend is additives. Ballast Point and Modern Times are the worst about this. We are at the "add some truffle oil it" stage.

> now the trend is additives. Ballast Point To be fair, Ballast Point always added strange things to their beers. And they had quite a few ... duds ... along the way. And, yes, I have drunk some of those duds.

The original Ballast Point was walking distance from my office. They had at most 6 taps. They started doing the additives much later, but it really got out of control when they got bought out.

Re: Craft Beer Is the Strangest, Happiest Economic Story in America

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Summary: benevolent regulation caused the craft beer boom. I call bullshit. Look at this graph [1] and tell me again how great the three-tier system was for market diversity. America went from 700 post-Prohibition breweries to less than 100 in 1978. That was the year homebrewing was legalized, and it's a pretty steady climb back up from there. Brewpubs -- which circumvent the three-tier system and its all-too-easily-…

It's not just that there was a three-tier system, but I would argue that in this particular case, it was the legalization of homebrewing that was the gateway into the innovation.

Early 80's and 90's homebrewers were essentially hackers [1], doing things at very small scales, and branching far out into experimental recipes and techniques. I'm sure there was innovation in distribution and retail over the last 40 years, but definitely nowhere near the scale of the actual brewers.

Without homebrewing, you don't get the wave of 80's self/indie hackers interested in the first place. So yeah, I could believe the author was right, without the three-tier system the little amount of innovation in brewing couldn't overthrow the total amount needed to also take over distribution and retail.

Maybe the analogy would be the first touch phones, or what Tesla is doing now with EVs.

1. https://hbr.org/2016/05/the-founder-of-dogfish-head-on-flout...

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Eventually alcohol usage will be looked upon with great fascination of a custom of a barbarian age: "They used to actually drink poison for thousands of years but we have moved on." It'll take time but it'll happen.

Coffee too? Even food. Even oxygen damn it! (Solar powered ai)

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> Large breweries ignored burgeoning niches, Watson said, particularly hoppy India Pale Ales, or IPAs, which constitute a large share of the craft-beer market. He's reversing cause-and-effect. IPAs are incredibly popular among microbrewers, because it is incredibly hard to brew consistently tasting batches of beer. Smothering all of a beer's other flavours, by dumping buckets after buckets of hops into it is much eas…

Hop additions don't necessarily cause bitterness. They can be added later in the boil or simply infused to add a floral flavor.
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