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Re: Apple's brewing shitstorm

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Post by schammy »

illumin8 wrote: post #34
w1ntermute wrote: post #18

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Even the Bing cache took a long time to load, so here's the full text: Apple's brewing shitstorm By Dave Winer on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 5:28 PM. I've been lucky to be in the middle of a number of Internet shitstorms in my life. They've been absolutely surreal, unfair, cruel. No one will listen to your side of the story. People you thought were friends join the pile-on. Etc etc. And then it passes, and eventuall…

Seriously, I feel like I just wasted 3 minutes of my life reading that article, then 1 minute typing this response. Writer is pissed because he waited in line for iPhone 4 and then his phone loses it's connection when he grips it a certain way. It's not the end of the world. Return the fucking phone and get on with your life. This feigned angst at being slighted by the big bad Apple that ruined your life is getting o…

Oh come on. Apple's response to this issue has been absolutely disgusting. Apple has a gigantic ego and everytime there's some kind of serious hardware issue with one of their products, all you get from Apple is denial. It's disgraceful.

Yeah, this issue isn't affecting everyone, and I agree it's gotten a bit more buzz than it probably should, but the fact of the matter is that the issue does exist and it's affecting a lot of people and Apple will simply NOT admit to it. This is one reason among many why I will never give Apple another cent of my money. They make good products for the most part, but I can't stand their ego/attitude. When they fuck up, they need to own up to it.

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Post by Tichy »

ramy_d wrote: post #7
aresant wrote: post #2

On the topic of Apple he is spot-on, but the fact is Apple's PR team is untrained because Steve Jobs IS the apple PR team - every semi-crisis / etc he addresses personally. I expect that with critical mass unfolding Steve will come to the rescue, but it illustrates how entirely and completely dependent on Steve Apple is - it's not just product design or inspiration . . .

out of curiosity, does steve hold it differently or does he use a bumper?

Someone should watch the presentation again and do an analysis.

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Post by cookiecaper »

philiphodgen wrote: post #48
binaryfinery wrote: post #26

a) Buy a case. b) Don't hold it like that. c) Take it back. How is it my totally technically illiterate wife can use this device to make calls, but internet bloggers cannot?

My totally technically illiterate wife will return her iPhone tomorrow. I canceled my order. We will wait for the next iteration. Interestingly we have owned Toyotas forever but for the next car purchase we will look at other manufacturers as well rather than default to a Toyota. For phones, the same is true. The replacement for my 3GS may or may not come from Apple. Before, it was a given that I would stay with Appl…

Why? Toyotas are great cars. The acceleration thing is complete BS.

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Post by [deleted] »

sprout wrote: post #38
dieterrams wrote: post #22

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True. But the people making that analogy are attempting to transfer the life-threatening gravity of faulty cars onto, well, an antenna. The gross unfairness goes both ways.

Apple started the war by making their design decisions out to be things of monumental consequence. When you portray your each and every device as a mind-bending magical artifact that will change your life, I think it's fair to look at the shortcomings through the same lens. That said, I wish we could just stop dissecting each and every Apple product. I'm tired of hearing about it. It's a piece of engineering, it has…

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Post by kevinelliott »

sprout wrote: post #38
dieterrams wrote: post #22

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True. But the people making that analogy are attempting to transfer the life-threatening gravity of faulty cars onto, well, an antenna. The gross unfairness goes both ways.

Apple started the war by making their design decisions out to be things of monumental consequence. When you portray your each and every device as a mind-bending magical artifact that will change your life, I think it's fair to look at the shortcomings through the same lens. That said, I wish we could just stop dissecting each and every Apple product. I'm tired of hearing about it. It's a piece of engineering, it has…

Well stated. Anyone who suggests that we need to be giving Apple a break for gloating about a new amazing magical antenna design and not calling them on it not working needs to realize this. The same perspective/lens should be used. It's not our fault Apple feels the need to gloat and spew words nearly referencing fairy tale unicorns. They should be prepared for some lash outs if they're going to deliver a phone that fundamentally doesn't even perform as a phone well, when they're boasting so much.

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Post by AlisdairO »

cookiecaper wrote: post #40
mikecane wrote: post #6

The pile-on begins. I see Computerworld is now saying the iPhone 4 is Apple's version of Vista.

But there wasn't really anything wrong with Vista. The rebellion against Vista was largely a psychological thing, users revolting because they _hate_ it any time anything changes. I don't think there was any "real" problem with Vista if you were running it on adequate hardware. I guess a big part of the problem was that Vista was getting installed on bottom-rung $300-$500 laptops and dragging everything down.

There's no good reason why Vista shouldn't have been able to run on 1GB ram laptops. It was so slow on my parents (new with vista) laptop that it made me want to scream using it. They upgraded to 2GB, and it was still pathetically slow until SP2 came out and fixed it. It works pretty decently now.

Clearly, there was something wrong with Vista.

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Post by JBiserkov »

dieterrams wrote: post #22
dkarl wrote: post #15

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I've seen some compare the iPhone 4's antenna issues to Toyota's accelerator disaster That would be grossly unfair to Toyota. There's a measurable and reproducible problem with the iPhone 4.

True. But the people making that analogy are attempting to transfer the life-threatening gravity of faulty cars onto, well, an antenna. The gross unfairness goes both ways.

Well, imagine you're on the either side of a life-saving call which gets dropped.

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Post by JBiserkov »

illumin8 wrote: post #35
fname wrote: post #33

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I equate Apple's problems to the Nintendo lawsuit over their wrist straps. Not everyone was throwing their controllers through their TV screens, but the select few who did caused an uproar. It also didn't stop Wii consoles from selling like hotcakes either. It took a class-action lawsuit to get Nintendo to take action. The solution was very simple -- give everyone free wrist straps for each of their controllers. I th…

Great analogy. You even had the PS3 (Android) and Xbox (Blackberry/RIM?) fanboys fueling the flames because 1 or 2 people threw their Wiimote through a flat screen (held their phone left handed while completely covering the antenna in a bad signal area). My prediction: On Friday, they are going to announce that there are free bumpers available to all iPhone 4 customers. Total cost to Apple: about $5 a piece. Total sa…

"... a free fix takes care of the only minor issue that it had." [emphasis mine]

Now if they could just fix the other major issue with the proximity sensor.

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