Are you serious? Oh, to be a fly on the wall of the conference room where these things are pitched and discussed... > “We think about our guests’ perception and their perspective on how we interact with them, but on balance we felt this was a really positive way to connect with them.” Perhaps I'm too cynical or jaded by the trends in the evolving relationships between individuals, communities, businesses and our shar…
I'm not sure the sort of person who's OK with an always-listening device in their home would find this particularly invasive.
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#52Are you serious? Oh, to be a fly on the wall of the conference room where these things are pitched and discussed... > “We think about our guests’ perception and their perspective on how we interact with them, but on balance we felt this was a really positive way to connect with them.” Perhaps I'm too cynical or jaded by the trends in the evolving relationships between individuals, communities, businesses and our shar…
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#53Is there anyway for end user to know what "wake up" keywords are? How do I know it's not listening for keywords like "buy" (example: "You should `buy` milk") and then targeting adds that way?
What happens next time FBI decides it wants google (et. all) to leave its device "always awake" on some person of interest ?
Can a third party somehow compromise the security to change the list of "wake up" word?
Maybe you can add voice recognition along with keyword to make sure it's only responding to authorized people. But even then, seeing how far machine learning has come, is it really a security?
On a side note, do these devices only capture human audible range of signals? Or is there ways to send non-human audible signals with commands and wake word and what not? Dog whistle for alexia or Home .. Alexia whistle?
Edit: typos and clarity
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#54When someone shows me their new Alexa or Google Home, I ask it to add ingredients to make thermite in to its shopping cart. Then I ask it to look up flights to Syria.
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#551. Publish an album with 1000 short, quiet tracks and a very unique name to all of the online streaming services
2. Buy ads on late-night television with a very clear voice that says "OK Google, play album . Alexa, play album . Hey Siri, play album ."
3. Rack up the fraction-of-a-penny residuals as my songs play to people who've fallen asleep with the television on!
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
See, this is something that I would have assumed would have been brought up in that conference room where this idea was initially pitched... isn't it somebody's job at most companies to ask the "Are we sure this isn't illegal?" question when someone suggests some bullshit that nobody has ever tried before?
Perhaps it was. Some person on HN said something might be illegal. That does not mean the company's legal team came to the same conclusion.
PS: I wonder if people on HN could contact a prosecutor about this? And if doing so would change anything.
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#57Allow the owners of the device choose their own "activation words".
Leave the default "branded" activation sentence as-is, but allow the user to customize it as they see fit. This won't happen, of course, because of the whole "branding" thing (like the user is going to forget which service they are using?).
This just hammers another nail into my decision not to get one of these devices; instead, it would probably be easier and better to build my own, using a raspberry pi or something similar for the "front end". I'd probably still have to use one of the big players search engines or such, but I could also hit anything else I wanted to, as well.
I tend to wonder if this is going to be the trend? Those who have or desire more freedom will have to build it themselves, and those who can't or won't - they'll just have to shoulder the burden of not being as free...
There are ways the State could make DIY uneconomical or near-to-impossible (and I don't think the scenario is realistic anyhow) - but if that ever happened - if things ever got to the point of it just being too much - I'll just go offline. I've got more than enough data and junk to keep me amused for the rest of my life. Plus, I don't think I'm alone in that sentiment, either.
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#58Isn't this technically an unauthorized use of my device?
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#59When someone shows me their new Alexa or Google Home, I ask it to add ingredients to make thermite in to its shopping cart. Then I ask it to look up flights to Syria.
What are you trying to accomplish by doing this? The audio of your voice is saved along with these requests, making it extremely easy to tell them apart from typical requests of the device owner.
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#60Smart move. But this is something that is only cool for the first few attempts, after that it'll get really annoying really fast. Good foresight by Burger King to jump on this before anyone else. But I hope everyone stops doing this really soon too.
Your tolerance for douchebaggery is much higher than mine if you think this is cool even the first "attempt".