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Uber president Jeff Jones is quitting

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Re: Uber president Jeff Jones is quitting

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Post by nomnombunty »

partiallypro wrote: post #42
ivraatiems wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, this is not just or mainly what's happening here. Every time an anti-Uber article comes up, someone pops in and says something to the effect of your comment, but it simply isn't true. Uber is evil. They do evil things. They should not be supported. Yes, people like to see the titans fall, but people also like to see those who behave poorly get what they deserve for that behavior. That's what's happening here.…

Outside of the sexual harassment claims, literally none of this is different than any other huge tech company out there. People want to see Uber failing has a lot more to do with narrative than reality. People have created a caricature out of Uber's failings and applied it to every aspect of the company. It's starting to feel like an agenda more than actual concerns, it's pretty annoying actually. Once Uber is gone,…

To be fair, other CEOs are not constantly acting like a jerk to everyone. Maybe Travis will be more likable if he follows the footsteps of Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and pledge to give the majority of his wealth.

Re: Uber president Jeff Jones is quitting

#52

Post by ivraatiems »

Anderkent wrote: post #39
ivraatiems wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, this is not just or mainly what's happening here. Every time an anti-Uber article comes up, someone pops in and says something to the effect of your comment, but it simply isn't true. Uber is evil. They do evil things. They should not be supported. Yes, people like to see the titans fall, but people also like to see those who behave poorly get what they deserve for that behavior. That's what's happening here.…

Many items on that list aren't actually bad things, they're just described using language with negative connotations. For example >Uber breaks laws all around the world to enrich itself, including allegedly trying to deceive government officials across the world.[4] Detecting malicious users and protecting drivers by shadowbanning malicious users is neither illegal nor wrong. Uber has no legal nor moral obligation to…

> Stupid jurisdiction should not be complied with above direct legal necessity.

Uber is breaking the law in these jurisdictions. That's what the court orders are for. Are you suggesting that it's okay to adopt a policy of "we'll break the law until we get caught" on the basis of not liking the law?

Re: Uber president Jeff Jones is quitting

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Post by notyourwork »

itchyjunk wrote: post #11
hyperbovine wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I appreciate somebody extracting the money quote. I don't even remotely have time to read everything posted here.

Same, I scan trough comments way more than I scan through articles.

So we might as well paste the articles in the comments section?

Re: Uber president Jeff Jones is quitting

#56

Post by nomnombunty »

Fricken wrote: post #18

I think Uber's biggest problem is the broken relationships it has with so many of it's drivers. Their abuse of their labour force is the reason unions exist.

It is a broken relationship that would be hard to fix. Uber doesn't even try to hide its intention to get rid of the drivers once it has its self driving cars fully deployed

Re: Uber president Jeff Jones is quitting

#57

Post by TorKlingberg »

tyingq wrote: post #10
CydeWeys wrote: post #8

Uber doesn't have a prayer of rehabilitation until Kalanick himself goes. The rot goes straight up to him. Jeff Jones was a much more recent acquisition who came from staid corporate America (Target) -- I don't think he was the problem.

The short tenure, job description, and his history makes this bit believable: "Jones determined that the situation at the company was more problematic than he realized."

Yes, this clearly looks like Jones getting out before his reputation is sullied by further association with Uber's leadership.

Re: Uber president Jeff Jones is quitting

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Post by jonathankoren »

israrkhan wrote: post #24

Given that he quit just in six months, probably he did not even wait for his RSU grants to mature (1 year cliff for stock grants). The situation might be much worse that what appears.

I really don't think he needs the money after being CMO at Target.

This is what having fuck-you-money gets you: The ability to walk away not care about the financial consequences.

Re: Uber president Jeff Jones is quitting

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Post by Kinnard »

hyperbovine wrote: post #5
notyourwork wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you quote the article and not add a comment? I read that in the article so adding it here doesn't add any value to the discussion.

I appreciate somebody extracting the money quote. I don't even remotely have time to read everything posted here.

The loss of context can be dangerous and misleading.

Re: Uber president Jeff Jones is quitting

#60

Post by fluxic »

Update 1:

>Travis Kalanick just sent out a company-wide email. It essentially says after Uber said it was naming a COO, Jones decided to leave.

[0] https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/843586902817099777

Update 2: Ex-president Jones makes statement

>"I joined Uber because of its Mission [sic], and the challenge to build global capabilities that would help the company mature and thrive long-term.

"It is now clear, however, that the beliefs and approach to leadership that have guided my career are inconsistent with what I saw and experienced at Uber, and I can no longer continue as president of the ride sharing business.

"There are thousands of amazing people at the company, and I truly wish everyone well."

[1] https://twitter.com/MikeIsaac/status/843620240961368065

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