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Re: Wine 2.0 released

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You are downvoted because you are wrong. I have made very good experiences with wine.

How much of a performance hit have you seen when running games, compared to just running them in Windows on the same machine?

Critically, WINE outperforms VirtualBox, especially if you account for starting up (or the overhead of constantly running) a virtual windows machine. Being able to run a few apps without switching off your dual boot machine or firing up a vm is nice.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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> The main highlights are the support for Microsoft Office 2013, and the 64-bit support on macOS. This made me chuckle. Better late than never I suppose.

I havent used office in a many years now.. but I thought MS Office is now an online offering similar to Google Docs?

It has web applications, but they do not replace the desktop ones feature-wise. When you buy Office 365 subscription, you get both web access and desktop apps.

If you use OneDrive, then you basically get just the web apps for documents stored in there (which is also the easiest way to check out).

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Depends on the game. Some run better on Windows, some on Wine. You need to check for specific titles with this kind of question. I've seen multiple sources claiming that CoD2 and WoW run with better FPS on Wine for example.

Wow, I never would have thought they could run better. I'm thinking of old titles, AoE II, Starcraft, etc. They have good ratings but I'm just wondering if it would be anywhere near as bad as when I used to run VMWare on my old Mac.

VMWare is an emulator. Wine is not an emulator.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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post #37

> The main highlights are the support for Microsoft Office 2013, and the 64-bit support on macOS. This made me chuckle. Better late than never I suppose.

I havent used office in a many years now.. but I thought MS Office is now an online offering similar to Google Docs?

Office 360. I dont use it myself but I heard its not comparable and does not work without Internet Explorer...

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Tag&Rename [1], a still maintained Windows-only shareware excellent at tagging music. Occasional use, Linux equivalents suck in various ways, it's perfectly configured to my needs, and works perfectly in Wine so why change it :) [1] http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm EDIT: thanks for the Linux alternative suggestions everyone! I have (had) mostly the same complaints about ExFalso / Puddletag / EasyTAG as the ones I po…

Let the computer do the work, I recommend beets which pulls Musicbrainz data: http://beets.io/

Beets is great and it's the primary way I tag music, but it isn't very beginner friendly. Worth learning though.

For something much simpler I recommend EasyTAG: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/EasyTAG

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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> The main highlights are the support for Microsoft Office 2013, and the 64-bit support on macOS. This made me chuckle. Better late than never I suppose.

you're falling for MS's marketing gimmick: "let's put the year in the product name so it will slowly shame and pressure people to give us more money for next years version (whose killer feature is a new splash screen with a year that is closer to now).

Amen to this. If Wine is now compatible with Office 2013, how bad do you think the UX would really be if you tried to run 2016 on it?

Re: Wine 2.0 released

#57
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are downvoted because you are wrong. I have made very good experiences with wine.

How much of a performance hit have you seen when running games, compared to just running them in Windows on the same machine?

Depends on the game. My experience is this:

As a general rule, assume that there will always be a performance penalty. It will be good enough to be playable, but you'll notice the difference, and you'll have to adjust the graphics down one or two notches (go down from "Max" graphics settings to "Medium" or similar). If you can live with this, you're fine.

Some games, in particular old games that don't rely much on 3D (I'm thinking of Age of Wonders right now), work really well, or well enough that you don't notice the difference.

I have some games that are unplayable, but thankfully those are rare (or I am just lucky). X3, for example, is glitchy as hell and the performance is very bad. Some games are also inexplicably slow: there are some PopCap games (very casual and "lightweight" games) that are just unplayable, for some reason.

However, with regards to being playable, I think that the graphical bugs will be the showstoppers, not performance.

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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I've been using computers my whole life, and a lot of the magic has been explained away. Wine is a project that continues to astound me. Grats to the Wine team, this is great!

Took the words out of my mouth. It's saved me from having to install complex or insecure VMs or additional machines so many times I can't count. I also enjoy using it to bundle applications usable on Linux and MacOS that otherwise were locked in to windows.

It's also a godsend for gaming on Linux. As long as you take a peek at the wine appdb page for the game you're trying to run beforehand, they usually work great and with pretty good performances.

Though granted the games I play tend not to be cutting edge (but for example, Skyrim with a large texture pack and a full, heavy mod conversion such as Enderal works perfectly and with CSMT, with performances roughly equal to Windows).

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Cool. I have to admit I haven't thought about Wine in a while because I can't think of any software I use that doesn't have a Linux version. What are people's use-cases nowadays?

Playing Spelunky on my Macbook. No, really.

It's pretty killer for running older / less demanding games. Lots of older games work better in Wine than they do in modern Windows, if at all. Also, for some indie games with half-assed Mac ports I've found it's often better to just run the Windows version in Wine.

I suppose it works with productive Windows apps too...

Re: Wine 2.0 released

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Cool. I have to admit I haven't thought about Wine in a while because I can't think of any software I use that doesn't have a Linux version. What are people's use-cases nowadays?

Tag&Rename [1], a still maintained Windows-only shareware excellent at tagging music. Occasional use, Linux equivalents suck in various ways, it's perfectly configured to my needs, and works perfectly in Wine so why change it :) [1] http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm EDIT: thanks for the Linux alternative suggestions everyone! I have (had) mostly the same complaints about ExFalso / Puddletag / EasyTAG as the ones I po…

Have you tried Ex Falso for tagging?
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