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Re: The Daredevil Camera

#51

Hey Artlav, when did you start posting on ribbonfarm? I used to subscribe to it, but unsubscribed a couple years back after Rao wrote a dumb post on information security.

About a year ago. He invited me in after seeing the "How do you make batteries that work on Venus" article ( http://orbides.org/page.php?id=1005 ) i wrote on my own semi-dead site.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#52
>Unfortunately, we are still talking about a total of 64 Mbps of data. That needs a USB 2.0 sampling board that would pull the data out of the cells over the bulk interface

you mean a $10 EZ-USB FX2LP dongle?

You might be interested in this https://sourceforge.net/p/manyears/wiki/Main_Page/

Im sure you know about SeeSV-S205, its basically the same thing, but polished and packaged neatly for FAT commercial customers ($30K).

posted on slashdot in 2013 about the same thing https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3742015&cid=437167...

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#53
post #52

>Unfortunately, we are still talking about a total of 64 Mbps of data. That needs a USB 2.0 sampling board that would pull the data out of the cells over the bulk interface you mean a $10 EZ-USB FX2LP dongle? You might be interested in this https://sourceforge.net/p/manyears/wiki/Main_Page/ Im sure you know about SeeSV-S205, its basically the same thing, but polished and packaged neatly for FAT commercial customers (…

Interesting. Can it take 16 simultaneous SPI-like channels of data going at 40-ish MHz, and pack it into a USB uplink?

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#54
Why is the resolution so much fixed to the number of mics?

Shouldn't 3 mics be somewhat sufficient for intermediate values as well? More mics => more redundancy => clearer image of the waves, but why do the pixels/blobs "snap" to a microphone?

edit: ah, he does not use timing (at 10fps obviously not) but needs continuous sound to see the wave pattern across the array...

edit 2: so do these gunfire locators¹ only time stamp impulses? Or do they do continuous analysis? With natural, irregular sound, it should be possible to match and measure the delay between mics, no?

edit 3: the gunfire locators would need to analyze for gunfire characteristics anyways, to weed out false positives, but that could be separated from the locating.

edit x: oh cool, if you zoom out of the final picture so it's smaller on screen, you can even see some parallax effect happening: http://206hwf3fj4w52u3br03fi242.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-c...

¹ http://wordpress.mrreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/boome...

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#56
post #30

This would be pretty powerful if you combine it with speech recognition. If you put this array in the middle of a crowded room, can you better tease apart different audio sources?

Not this specific hardware, but in general, yes. Amazon Echo does pretty much this, except it focuses on one source instead of all possible sources (from what I know). PulseAudio also recently gained a feature to use beamforming (see a HN submission from either today or yesterday), but for now it needs the location of the object you're trying to record as an input. I guess you could kind of brute-force that and let it run many times over the same audio stream to find all possible audio sources.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#57
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well as it happens there are special sonar cameras out there capable of providing real-time video images[0][1]. The use case here is being able for a diver or ROV to see in murky water [0] http://www.soundmetrics.com/image-gallery [1] http://www.apl.washington.edu/programs/z_DIDSON/Pages/LIMIS....

Not quite the same thing though. These systems are active. They have sound being produces most likely at a very specific frequency and then listened for so that depth information can be gathered. This instead images the sound that's already out there in the light. It's the difference between lidar and a camera

Sounds to me more like the difference between using the flash or not.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#59
Almost, kinda related is this Invisbilia episode that's pretty interesting about a blind man that uses directed clicking in his mouth as a way of "seeing via echolocation". They talk about how it activates similar parts of the brain that vision does which I think is a cool parallel to what's been created here.

http://www.npr.org/programs/invisibilia/378577902/how-to-bec...

Re: The Daredevil Camera

#60
This is pretty cool, and reminded me of the far-field microphone array in an Amazon Echo (which uses 7 spaced out microphones). Which also makes me wonder, taking something like this (which has way more than just 7 mics) and applying it to the problem of far field speech recognition, are there large gains to be had? Just thinking of what new applications become possible, when you have the ability to print hundreds or thousands of miniature mics on a single board that will fit in a small-ish device.
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