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Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Yay, a sound-field camera! I've been wondering if such things are made. Should I take the existence of this project as an indication that they aren't? The use case I imagine is finding what part of a machine is emitting a noise, much like how you would use a thermal camera for finding what part of it is running hot.

That's a very sensible use case. I was thinking more like, super-trippy live music visuals.

Yours is sensible too.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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post #14

This is the definition of what a 'hacker' is, great read.

Right on. Reminds me of Richard Feynman or Steve Wozniak, the way they just casually talk about taking things apart and putting things together while following a curiosity on an adventure. This is representative of the sort of ethos that drew everyone here in the first place, I think.

Unfortunately once you touch this sort of high, the normal day job starts to looking boring.

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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Yay, a sound-field camera! I've been wondering if such things are made. Should I take the existence of this project as an indication that they aren't? The use case I imagine is finding what part of a machine is emitting a noise, much like how you would use a thermal camera for finding what part of it is running hot.

Well as it happens there are special sonar cameras out there capable of providing real-time video images[0][1].

The use case here is being able for a diver or ROV to see in murky water

[0]http://www.soundmetrics.com/image-gallery [1]http://www.apl.washington.edu/programs/z_DIDSON/Pages/LIMIS....

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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post #26
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't this exactly what sonar does? SOund Navigation And Ranging: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonar

No. SONAR sends out an ultrasonic ping and times the response of its echo to get a distance. This project is similar in that it involves visualization from audio, but apart from that, it's quite difference. This is the ability to see a sound. To derive the positions of arbitrary sounds in a viewing plane, and render it like you would a picture or video.

Yes. Passive sonar only listens to the noise. Passive sonar systems are often arrays too. So the analogy holds quite well from a distance ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonar#Passive_sonar

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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post #44

Yay, a sound-field camera! I've been wondering if such things are made. Should I take the existence of this project as an indication that they aren't? The use case I imagine is finding what part of a machine is emitting a noise, much like how you would use a thermal camera for finding what part of it is running hot.

Well as it happens there are special sonar cameras out there capable of providing real-time video images[0][1]. The use case here is being able for a diver or ROV to see in murky water [0] http://www.soundmetrics.com/image-gallery [1] http://www.apl.washington.edu/programs/z_DIDSON/Pages/LIMIS....

Not quite the same thing though. These systems are active. They have sound being produces most likely at a very specific frequency and then listened for so that depth information can be gathered. This instead images the sound that's already out there in the light. It's the difference between lidar and a camera

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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post #18

Yay, a sound-field camera! I've been wondering if such things are made. Should I take the existence of this project as an indication that they aren't? The use case I imagine is finding what part of a machine is emitting a noise, much like how you would use a thermal camera for finding what part of it is running hot.

Not exactly unheard of, but quite rare. I found a company that made large arrays like that, but they seem to operate in near field, measuring only the sound volume. Imagine a wall of microphones next to a truck - you can tell which part of the wheel makes the sound. That sort of stuff. As for an actual "camera" that turns sound into an image - i've never heard of one.

Congrats, beautiful history and nice hacking. I hope you get a really big bag of money one of these days so you can keep doing this kind of things!!! kudos!

Re: The Daredevil Camera

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post #42

Awesome project! Nitpick; Duga 3 was never built. The one near Chernobyl is Duga 1.

Facepalm. Yep, somehow it got stuck in my memory as Duga-3. Something about the third prototype/iteration of the project? No idea by now...
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