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Re: Safari 9.1

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chris_wot wrote: post #42
hamhamed wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

an even simpler answer would be because it is the default browser..

Not just the default browser - the only browser on iOS. Which leads to frustrating issues like webpages you can't read because someone checked in a bit of cide that stuffs up viewport scaling in at webpage that has style="overflow:hidden" in the body tag. In other words, don't try to browse source code in OpenGrok. So you get critical issues that don't get fixed for 3-6 months. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id…

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Re: Safari 9.1

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Post by grumblestumble »

Longhanks wrote: post #19
grumblestumble wrote: post #5

A point release every n months is utterly useless for on-the-ground web developers. Safari needs to move to the Firefox/Chrome deployment model if it wants to remain at all relevant.

Please no. I really love Safari for being just a really good browser. No 'sneaky OS' like Chrome (I don't need Chromes User management, thank you, and I'd much rather have my OS's context menus and font aliasing), and speedier, if you will, 'snappier' than Firefox, with its custom animations for every button and overall not very 'native' look and feel. No, I want a browser that does what a browser should do; let me e…

...at the expense of slowing down the adoption of agreed-upon standards to the point that they can't be reliably utilized because of compatibility issues? This is not exactly a new scenario. At least Microsoft has moved on.

Re: Safari 9.1

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Post by newman314 »

carlesfe wrote: post #11

Let's hope they fixed the bug where WindowServer hangs up randomly after closing a Youtube tab. It's an incredibly annoying bug that's forcing me to reboot every 2-3 days. I don't browse Youtube on Safari, but as soon as there is a website with an embedded video, boom it goes :(

Is this the same bug where things randomly stop rendering properly if lots of tabs are open?

I find that I'm having to close a whole bunch of tabs in order to get pages to properly render. It'll work for a while then stop working again. Really quite annoying.

Re: Safari 9.1

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Post by therealmarv »

dvcrn wrote: post #45
mwpmaybe wrote: post #28

For anyone wondering why anybody uses Safari these days, the simple answer (for me, at least) is that it consumes much less CPU and energy on my MacBook Pro than Chrome and Firefox. It can mean an hour or more of battery life when unplugged, and greatly reduced testicle-cooking when plugged. I still use Chrome for development but Safari is my "daily driver" for email, surfing, reading, etc.

I am agreeing with this. The difference of using safari vs chrome can make the difference of a few hours more battery. Here's an example: I just started chrome to read some articles here on HN and it already bypassed my email client in battery usage that was running for for a good bit longer. Even worse is that a lot of apps nowadays decide to ship their own chromium in form of electron. Slack, Nylas, Atom - it's a b…

good point on Electron! I also noticed that Slack and Atom are real battery hogs. Worse is Slack when a giphy is also in the chat window (although the window is in background)... it burns CPU for new reason.

Re: Safari 9.1

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Post by veidr »

mwpmaybe wrote: post #28

For anyone wondering why anybody uses Safari these days, the simple answer (for me, at least) is that it consumes much less CPU and energy on my MacBook Pro than Chrome and Firefox. It can mean an hour or more of battery life when unplugged, and greatly reduced testicle-cooking when plugged. I still use Chrome for development but Safari is my "daily driver" for email, surfing, reading, etc.

Yeah plus the integration (on Apple devices only, but hey) is superb.

I quite often use the automatic feature on my iPhone "open what you are reading in safari on the Mac Pro on your phone".

Then I leave work, commute home reading that, and then my Mac at home senses what's open in my phone's Safari and it's one click to open it on the big screen.

Safari is actually a pretty great browser, too. Faster than any other for me, more stable, less battery drain on laptops.

I still use Chrome and Firefox all day long too, but mainly for specific development chores, or to stay logged into services with my work account, while Safari is logged into my personal account.

Safari is, IMO, pretty great!

Re: Safari 9.1

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Post by veidr »

Please tell me they fixed flexbox rendering? Chrome and FF have had that for a while, while Safari has been buggy/malrenderish.
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