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IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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That has nothing to do with the JVM. It's simply a result of it being a very feature-rich IDE.

It may. Java io stack is quite bad at certain tasks like crawling files and tracking changes.

On my experience, the blame is more between chair, keyboard and monitor than with JVM itself, given the typical codebases I have to review for quality issues.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin). Every IDE has pros/cons, and both eclipse and intellij have their shares, but if you consider the big picture, they mostly even out. In fact, I would rather argue that the features on which intellij rules are of superficial nature and have more to do with a "nice feel" (such as more friendly code-completion or better looking gra…

Eclipse is not what I would call the paramount of performance.

I don't like it that much, but it surely beats Android Studio on the same hardware.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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IdeaVim [0], a free plugin, is the best vim emulator I've ever used. [0] https://github.com/JetBrains/ideavim

Seconded. IdeaVim is incredible. It's been close to 1:1 parity with the vim features I need.

It just ruins Command+C and Command+V for me. Yes, I understand I can go into visual mode and use 'y' and 'p' but what if I want to paste from the system clipboard rather than the IdeaVim clipboard? Command+V simply just doesn't work and 'p' obviously contains the IdeaVim clipboard buffer.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin). Every IDE has pros/cons, and both eclipse and intellij have their shares, but if you consider the big picture, they mostly even out. In fact, I would rather argue that the features on which intellij rules are of superficial nature and have more to do with a "nice feel" (such as more friendly code-completion or better looking gra…

> Call me old, but I still use eclipse even for android programming (using the ADT plugin).

I, too, wish we hadn't switched from Eclipse ADT to Android Studio. It's unfathomable to me how anybody can claim IntelliJ feels faster.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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post #51

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It may. Java io stack is quite bad at certain tasks like crawling files and tracking changes.

On my experience, the blame is more between chair, keyboard and monitor than with JVM itself, given the typical codebases I have to review for quality issues.

eh, any app that maintains compatibility with jdks then there is indeed the PEBCAK as you say, but you can't really blame people that knows the proper solutions if they have weird jdk to support.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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post #53
post #24

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Seconded. IdeaVim is incredible. It's been close to 1:1 parity with the vim features I need.

It just ruins Command+C and Command+V for me. Yes, I understand I can go into visual mode and use 'y' and 'p' but what if I want to paste from the system clipboard rather than the IdeaVim clipboard? Command+V simply just doesn't work and 'p' obviously contains the IdeaVim clipboard buffer.

$ cat ~/.ideavimrc

set clipboard+=unnamed

That sets IdeaVim to use the system clipboard by default. However, this has the same effects as making vim use the system clipboard by default: for example, executing ci" will pull the text between the quotes onto the system clipboard, overwriting whatever is there. Personally I prefer this behaviour in vim, emacs (with Evil, obviously), and IdeaVim though. YMMV, but it is possible!

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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Does anyone know if there was some relationship between Jetbrains & Netbeans? Netbeans started as Xelfi in Prague mid 90s. Jetbrains is also based in Prague. A friend of mine started Xelfi -- I'm trying to figure out how awesome my friend is.

Netbeans is actually a great IDE, and no doubt has come a long way. It works well "out of the box" compared to Eclipse, and feels lighter than IntelliJ but still comes with tons of project templates that actually work well without further customization.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

If the project is not enormous a simple hard disk is ok. A lot of RAM is much more important than SSD. Sure indexing the first time takes enough time for you to go grab a coffee but otherwise it runs pretty fast.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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post #23

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To speed up IntelliJ products, immediately open Settings -> Directories and exclude all unnecessary folders. Otherwise a crawler background process will indexes every file, and it consumes a lot of CPU and IO resources.

Got any more detailed instructions for this? I'm running the OSX version of IntelliJ, I can't see this option anywhere

Right click the directory -> mark directory as -> excluded.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA and the whole IntelliJ platform migrates to Java 8

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I really like the IntelliJ products (especially PHPStorm with the Symfony2 plugins, PyCharm, etc) but you really need a 'beefy' computer to run it properly. SSDs are a must.

Your issues are related to the number of plugins being loaded.

I primarily write Java in my professional life, using IntelliJ Ultimate Edition. I have to do so on a MacBook Pro with SSD to be productive.

Lately I primarily write Go in my personal life. I use the free IntelliJ Community Edition (with Go plugin only) on all my devices. On a CHROMEBOOK with 2 GB of RAM running Crouton, my experience with Community Edition is almost as snappy as my 16 GB MacBook experience with Ultimate Edition.

You can radically speed up your IntelliJ environment by being more judicious in which plugins you enable. Quite honestly, lately I've wondered why I bother with Ultimate Edition at all... since the only non-free plugins I really use are for HTML and JavaScript support (and even those only rarely). If my company wants to pay for an Ultimate license and a MacBook on which to run it, then I'll gladly use them... but if it were my money I'd probably just stick to Community Edition for my needs.

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