Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull • Hacker News Board

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by sp332 » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:50 PM UTC

talmand wrote: post #47

Drakim wrote: post #36

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It's not just that people have to stand in line. They also have to go between a bunch of different stores since Milk producers have an exclusive contract with Walmart and Bread producers have an exclusive contract with 7-Eleven. Furthermore, after you grab your Milk, the terms and services of the Milk states you have to sit and watch an advertisement on their projector before you are allowed to leave the store.

Or you could just stop buying the milk.

Then the milk producers would start complaining about the thieves taking all their profits, without considering that maybe their business model is turning people off from buying milk.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by talmand » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:52 PM UTC

dagw wrote: post #21

jamespo wrote: post #6

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So what you want is the service to be very cheap and have a massive amount of content available.

I'd be happy with Netflix doubling my monthly fee if it meant access to more, better and newer movies.

Complain to content creators, not Netflix.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by Mithaldu » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:53 PM UTC

happyscrappy wrote: post #48

commentzorro wrote: post #44

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That is the entire point of the article. The convenience and value of Netflix was astonishing. But with half the content going away is it still? Especially with Netflix saying the solution is to repurchase what you just got rid of (cable) in order to get that newly missing content back.

It will depend on the specifics and the users taste. For me I don't have enough time to watch what is in my queue already. People who have lots of time and little money can futz around with being a pirate.

Also people who have lots of time, money and don't live in the usa.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by happyscrappy » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 2:07 PM UTC

Mithaldu wrote: post #53

happyscrappy wrote: post #48

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It will depend on the specifics and the users taste. For me I don't have enough time to watch what is in my queue already. People who have lots of time and little money can futz around with being a pirate.

Also people who have lots of time, money and don't live in the usa.

Standardized licensing across Europe seems to be a very thorny problem. Between the different languages and regulatory bodies I do not see much hope.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by Mithaldu » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 2:08 PM UTC

happyscrappy wrote: post #54

Mithaldu wrote: post #53

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Also people who have lots of time, money and don't live in the usa.

Standardized licensing across Europe seems to be a very thorny problem. Between the different languages and regulatory bodies I do not see much hope.

I still hold out the hope that they will be able to look at Steam and realize that what they're doing is beneficial. Steam seems to be at the forefront regarding these things both in terms of technology and legal matters.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by talmand » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 2:11 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #51

talmand wrote: post #47

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Or you could just stop buying the milk.

Then the milk producers would start complaining about the thieves taking all their profits, without considering that maybe their business model is turning people off from buying milk.

Let them complain, it doesn't change the fact their stupid business model is costing them money. I say let the stupid complain as they go out of business.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by sp332 » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 2:17 PM UTC

talmand wrote: post #56

sp332 wrote: post #51

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Then the milk producers would start complaining about the thieves taking all their profits, without considering that maybe their business model is turning people off from buying milk.

Let them complain, it doesn't change the fact their stupid business model is costing them money. I say let the stupid complain as they go out of business.

Here's the problem: I would like to get these videos, and they would like to sell them to me. They're just doing such a bad job that we are both unhappy. I'd love for them to be doing a better job.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by dogma1138 » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 2:20 PM UTC

LukeB_UK wrote: post #15

dogma1138 wrote: post #2

Epix holds the broadcasting rights for PPV/VOD/Streaming for Viacom-Paramount, MGM, United Artists, Lion's Gate, Disney's Marvel Franchise... Yep that's a big gamble indeed.... All these streaming services are becoming pretty much Cable TV 2.0. Today (UK) if you want to watch most things well it's Netflix (with DNS/IP region hacks to get US and UK content), Amazon Prime Video (probably the poorest of the bunch at lea…

Aren't all the HBO shows that Sky has available on NowTV? I've not found it lacking any I've been wanting to watch.

Yes and a big no, you need the a pass to view HBO content on NowTV. The problem is that the content disappears after it's been aired and only shows up again just prior to the airing of the next season (usually 1-3 months before).

The NowTV service is very cable like the movie pack costs 9.99, and the entertainment and sports packs costs 6.99 each.

They are also seem to be wanting to push exclusive content that is accessible on their own streaming boxes only as they've stopped adding features for their smartTV /mobile apps.

I would probably not pay for NowTV if i couldn't get it for "free" trough my vodafone subscription and since it's a company phone what i do is ask them to cancel the vodafone package every 6 months and get a new one which allows me to signup for their offer again (6 months of free NowTV, Spotify Premium, or 50GBP for the Google Play store).

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by dogma1138 » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 2:37 PM UTC

talmand wrote: post #52

dagw wrote: post #21

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I'd be happy with Netflix doubling my monthly fee if it meant access to more, better and newer movies.

Complain to content creators, not Netflix.

Huh? if anything it's the distributors and considering that were discussing this in a thread about how Netflix decided to dump a huge movie library how is this even relevant?

I understand why Netflix is doing this as a company, they are no longer the biggest baddest player around and with more competition they have harder times scoring good deals with license holders and they see original content as a central part of their growth strategy because that content is and always will be exclusive to them for as long as they want to hold it.

That doesn't mean that I as a consumer want this or will benefit from this in any way, I can understand the financial reasoning behind it just like I can understand why game publishers run exclusive pre-order bonus deals and day one DLC but it also doesn't mean I don't loath it or will support it in the long run.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by robwilliams » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 2:41 PM UTC

ascagnel_ wrote: post #30

adamc wrote: post #19

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I wouldn't, because Hulu has commercials, and after years of Netflix, I find them extremely irritating. Netflix still has enough programming to be worth $8-9 a month. But as their movie offerings drop, their value proposition weakens.

Hulu only has commercials on their second-run (day-after-air) content from broadcast sources. They have a substantial back catalogue of stuff that doesn't include said commercials. I get why they have commercials: a $10/mo. service that provides shows the day after they air would devalue that content too much without commercials and would be uncompetitive when pricing to exclude them. For a comparison: a season pass…

>Hulu only has commercials on their second-run (day-after-air) content from broadcast sources. They have a substantial back catalogue of stuff that doesn't include said commercials.

Did they change to this recently? I had a Hulu Plus subscription a couple of years ago and they had ads interrupting everything, regardless of date.

If they've removed ads from their back catalog I may consider re-subscribing...