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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by Markoff »

afavour wrote: post #311
eunos wrote: post #293

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The point is they don't care my yap on my social media unlike the other nation across the pond

Right… because your yap is not accessible to anyone in their country and they have a much higher level of control and tracking that makes a potential dissident less dangerous. I’m not defending the US policy for a second, it’s totalitarian. But holding China up as a positive comparison to totalitarian impulses is missing the bigger picture.

not accessible, right, VPN in China cost less than a dollar, truly inaccessible service

tell me you know nothing about China without telling me you know nothing about China besides parroted propaganda

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by somewhatgoated »

asdfsa32 wrote: post #486
somewhatgoated wrote: post #477

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Idk did they? Who knows man a lot of stuff is said on the internet that might’ve or might’ve not happened

The least goated take. While it is good to give the benefit of doubt where it is due, there is a line where it starts to taste like shoe leather.

So the goated take in your opinion would be to just believe that a guy in Germany was arrested for writing random Arabic letters that kinda look like the Hamas logo without any proof or sources because it fits a certain narrative?

I’m not saying it’s impossibleb but there should be some evidence for such a strong claim

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by asdfsa32 »

somewhatgoated wrote: post #492
asdfsa32 wrote: post #486

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The least goated take. While it is good to give the benefit of doubt where it is due, there is a line where it starts to taste like shoe leather.

So the goated take in your opinion would be to just believe that a guy in Germany was arrested for writing random Arabic letters that kinda look like the Hamas logo without any proof or sources because it fits a certain narrative? I’m not saying it’s impossibleb but there should be some evidence for such a strong claim

No, you see; that is why your take is so ungoated. You know it is not an impossible claim, you also have access to internet, but you opt for benefit of the doubt. As I said, there is a line between fair benefit of the doubt and the taste of shoe leather.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by somewhatgoated »

asdfsa32 wrote: post #493
somewhatgoated wrote: post #492

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So the goated take in your opinion would be to just believe that a guy in Germany was arrested for writing random Arabic letters that kinda look like the Hamas logo without any proof or sources because it fits a certain narrative? I’m not saying it’s impossibleb but there should be some evidence for such a strong claim

No, you see; that is why your take is so ungoated. You know it is not an impossible claim, you also have access to internet, but you opt for benefit of the doubt. As I said, there is a line between fair benefit of the doubt and the taste of shoe leather.

Yea I did 5 minutes research on google and nothing turned up. If it’s such an outrageous case it should be easy to find - so your point is that I should invest hours trying to prove some claim that some rando typed on here while taking a shit.

Nah bro a goat like me has much better things to do.

If you make outrageous claims the burden of proof is on you and not the people you’re talking to.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by asdfsa32 »

somewhatgoated wrote: post #494
asdfsa32 wrote: post #493

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No, you see; that is why your take is so ungoated. You know it is not an impossible claim, you also have access to internet, but you opt for benefit of the doubt. As I said, there is a line between fair benefit of the doubt and the taste of shoe leather.

Yea I did 5 minutes research on google and nothing turned up. If it’s such an outrageous case it should be easy to find - so your point is that I should invest hours trying to prove some claim that some rando typed on here while taking a shit. Nah bro a goat like me has much better things to do. If you make outrageous claims the burden of proof is on you and not the people you’re talking to.

You don't have to prove anything, but given the staggering amount of evidence to support such event as likely, you opt to dismiss it without evidence. Like I said, shoe leather.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

iamkrazy wrote: post #245
paulgdp wrote: post #100

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> Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. This is precisely the reason why I don't want to visit the US at the moment. The USA immigration officers can ask me to forfeit my phone's password and look at all my photos, documents, messages, call logs etc, WITHOUT SUSPICION. Some of that data can even stay on their servers for decades, and who knows if i…

At least you can walk in with a phone reset to factory settings, and once you cross the border restore from the cloud (or home server like me). In UK you can be stopped walking on the sidewalk. It's much more dystopian in UK.

Any good examples of that happening? As far as I know, the police have to have a probable cause to stop and search you, but they can certainly ask you to stop and answer questions to which you can ask "am I being detained" if you object to their questions.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by lukan »

cassianoleal wrote: post #479
lukan wrote: post #442

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Why would he or she think that? Your questions are close to strawman arguments in my perception.

Let's follow the timeline, shall we? It shouldn't be difficult as it's a pretty linear tree in the comments. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423657 I mentioned that Europe is a lot more than the EU, and even within the EU member countries diverge. 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423908 trumpdong then makes a comment that I interpret as saying the EU doesn't have a lot of power over member states,…

You did not ask that:

"ask if they thought the EU should be harder and actually perform an armed invasion of a member state that didn't follow them."

You asked this:

"> the worst they can do is kick them out of the EU

As opposed to what? Armed invasion?"

Where trumpdong reploed with a affirmative "yes". So the worst they can do is kick someone out. No one demanded the EU should do armed invasion.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #476
trumpdong wrote: post #454

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CSAM and pirated material are both illegal file sharing, exactly the same from a technical perspective like how file sharing software works. Of course Mega would like you to pay to use it for backups, but I don't think anyone actually does. Their E2EE is there for a reason - they don't want any information about what you're hosting.

Which is exactly the same as legal file sharing from a technical perspective. Which is exactly the same as leading corporate secrets or international espionage or hosting a copy of The Satanic Verses, from a technical perspective. It's also no different from hosting a blog or any other website from a technical perspective.

Yes, yes, no. Except that legal file sharing has easier ways like direct HTTP download, or Google Drive.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

iamnothere wrote: post #485
trumpdong wrote: post #461

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What stops them?

Your friends and family and lawyers. Stop laying down and showing your belly. When are you going to start standing up for yourself?

How will they stop them?

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

skippyboxedhero wrote: post #460
trumpdong wrote: post #236

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What was the policy?

https://www.hampshire.police.uk/police-forces/hampshire-cons... - police forces across the UK have similar policies based upon this document from the NPCC - https://www.npcc.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/media/downloads/our... . There are a number of other similar documents produced by quangos that specialize specifically in impacting policy at police forces in their treatment of ethnic minorities. After the event, this po…

Cloudflare block page x2. What's the policy?
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