Both Google's latest model with "Deep Think" and Claude 4.6 Opus solve this just fine for me.
I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
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Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#492It's obvious to humans because we live in and have much experience of the physical world. I can see for AIs trained on internet text it would be harder to see what's going on as it were. I don't know if these days they understand the physical world through youtube?
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#493Earlier quoted context omitted.
I get that issue constantly. I somehow can't get any LLM to ask me clarifying questions before spitting out a wall of text with incorrect assumptions. I find it particularly frustrating.
For GPT at least, a lot of it is because "DO NOT ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION OR ASK FOR CONFIRMATION" is in the system prompt. Twice. https://github.com/Wyattwalls/system_prompts/blob/main/OpenA...
Out of curiosity: when you add custom instructions client-side, does it change this behavior?
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#494I've used LLMs enough that I have a good sense of their _edges_ of intelligence. I had assumed that reasoning models should easily be able to answer this correctly. And indeed, Sonnet and Opus 4.5 (medium reasoning) say the following: Sonnet: Drive - you need to bring your car to the car wash to get it washed! Opus: You'll need to drive — you have to bring the car to the car wash to get it washed! Gemini 3 Pro (mediu…
> so you need to tell them the specifics That is the entire point, right? Us having to specify things that we would never specify when talking to a human. You would not start with "The car is functional. The tank is filled with gas. I have my keys." As soon as we are required to do that for the model to any extend that is a problem and not a detail (regardless that those of us, who are familiar with the matter, do bu…
In the end, formal, rule-based systems aka Programming Languages will be invented to instruct LLMs.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#495Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's probably a comedy film with an AGI attempting to take over the world with its advanced grasp of strategy, persuasion and SAT tests whilst a bunch of kids confuse it by asking it fiendish brainteasers about carwashes and the number of rs in blackberry. (The final scene involves our plucky escapees swimming across a river to escape. The AIbot conjures up a speedboat through sheer powers of deduction, but then j…
This would work if it wasn’t for that lovely little human trait where we tend to find bumbling characters endearing. People would be sad when the AI lost.
Maybe infusing the AI character with the boundless self confidence of its creators will make it less endearing :)
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#496Earlier quoted context omitted.
A modern LLMs corpora is every piece of human writing ever produced.
Not really, but even if it would be true, I don't think humans ever explained to each other why do you need to drive to car wash even if it's 50 meters away. It's pretty obvious and intuitive.
No, I think they have explained this to each other (or something like it). But as you suggested, discussion is a lot more likely when there are corner cases or problems.
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Lmao, and this is what they are saying will be an AGI in 6 months?
Well in fairness, the "G" does stand for "General".
I think this lack of 'G' (generality, or modality) is the problem. A human visualizes this kind of problem (a little video plays in my head of taking a car to a car wash). LLM's don't do this, they 'think' only in text, not visually.
A proper AGI would have have to have knowledge in video, image, audio and text domains to work properly.
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#498Gemini fast > That is a classic "efficiency vs. logic" dilemma. Honestly, unless you’ve invented a way to teleport or you're planning on washing the car with a very long garden hose from your driveway, you’re going to have to drive. > While 50 meters is a great distance for a morning stroll, it’s a bit difficult to get the car through the automated brushes (or under the pressure washer) if you aren't behind the wheel…
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#499LLMs lie all the time. Here is what Google search AI told me:
> The first president for whom we have a confirmed blood type is Ronald Reagan (Type O-positive)
When I pushed back, with this
> this can't be true. what about FDR?
It said FDR was AB-.
Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?
#500I wonder if the providers are doing everyone, themselves included, a huge disservice by providing free versions of their models that are so incompetent compared to the SOTA models that these types of q&a go viral because the ai hype doesn't match the reality for unpaid users. And it's not just the viral questions that are an issue. I've seen people getting sub-optimal results for $1000+ PC comparisons from the free r…
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