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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by kstrauser »

WuxiFingerHold wrote: post #432

I hate to say it, but Windows is much more productive than MacOS for the usually tasks you perform on an OS (with GUI, both have CLIs, but I'm not talking about them). I'm using both at work all day long switching between them. When reflecting why, I think it comes down to windows management and the file explorer (vs finder).

That’s an entirely subjective thing, though. I’ve used Macs more than PCs and I can’t stand what feels to me like Windows’s abysmal window management.

I don’t say that to argue that macOS is better at it, just that I strongly prefer the Mac way as much as you prefer the way Windows does things, and that’s perfectly fine.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by kstrauser »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #42
pants2 wrote: post #27

How has Apple still not addressed many basic UI issues, such as menu bar icons disappearing behind the notch with no way to see them?

And the apps that provide solutions for it, like Bartender, need screen reading permissions which I just can't bring myself to grant.

If you really want to use such a thing, switch to Ice. It’s an open source thing similar to Bartender, before BT was bought by a shifty outfit. It still requires those permissions, but at least you can look at the code. I have a paid Bartender license. I liked it enough to pay for it, but don’t like the road it went down and stopped using it.

Tahoe lets you selectively remove app icons from the menu bar. I’m going to try that for a while and see if I can tolerate not using Ice anymore.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by cornedor »

hk1337 wrote: post #265
_2d30 wrote: post #233

I decided to install this and the updated iOS today to see how I felt about it. My very initial impressions on MacOS: (1) I like the look of Safari better and the Mail app compared to the prior designs. They both look really nice to me and the Mail app especially looks like a huge improvement in terms of design unification with some of the features like summaries and unsubscribe options that looked bolted on in the p…

I really like the Apps change. Instead of opening up the icons full screen, it opens in a spotlight search window.

Except when I forgot the name of an app

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by Demiurge »

srid wrote: post #330
viraptor wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The battery life and power/efficiency of my m4 pro is insane. They're coming. Look for AMD Strix Halo chips. They're in the comparably comfortable efficiency range.

> AMD Strix Halo chips Do you happen to know any laptop that has a) equivalent screen quality (retina resolution), b) keyboard, c) trackpad but with full Linux support where all hardware pheripherals just work?

Razer Blade is my windows laptop. The hardware is great, MacBook nice, but it needs the chip efficiency.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by krackers »

socalgal2 wrote: post #472
basisword wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest surprise to me from this whole beta period is that a significant number of people used Launchpad. I have absolutely zero idea why when Spotlight has existed for more than 20 years. Why would you ever want to click and page through a giant iPhone screen on a desktop/laptop computer?

I don't use Launchpad but I can say, for me, Spotlight sucks! It decides at random times not to complete. I have it set to show apps only. I don't want it to find other things. But quite often I'll press Cmd-Space and type something and it won't find it. For example I just tried "pho" and it did not show Photoshop (which is on my system) but did show stuff completely unrelated to apps and I double checked, I only hav…

This is a uniquely new-macOS issue. Spotlight has never worked well since the big redesign in 10.10. In the snow leopard days it was predictable and seemed to be ordered by frequency of use. (There were occasional issues where the entire launchservices DB got messed up, but this can be fixed with an lsregister reset without reindexing all of the files).

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by josteink »

kkylin wrote: post #476
smcleod wrote: post #95

I've been running it since the RC and am currently in the process of uninstalling it. The new UI is so incredibly ugly I honestly cannot understand how they thought it was acceptable to even released as a beta let alone an RC and now release. There's SO much padding and wasted screen real estate, disjointed looking floating inner panels, window corners that are so rounded you see gaps in full screen apps, inconsisten…

There are also under-the-hood changes that I found truly upsetting: among other things, all the Emacs versions I've tried (stock GNU Emacs or Mac Port, downloaded binary blobs and compiled on my machine) are either immediately unusable or become so slow after a day that they are almost unusable. Tracing things on Instruments suggests a culprit (the culprit?) is NSAutofillHeuristicController. This is not a new feature…

> among other things, all the Emacs versions I've tried (stock GNU Emacs or Mac Port, downloaded binary blobs and compiled on my machine) are either immediately unusable or become so slow after a day that they are almost unusable.

So basically my #1 work tool will no longer work.

That’s a hard deal-breaker right there.

As a longer-term means of escape, what’s the best way to run a «full» Linux desktop on a otherwise managed Mac?

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by travisgriggs »

itopaloglu83 wrote: post #399
sho_hn wrote: post #219

Whew. Those screenshots: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/09/macos-26-tahoe-the-a... As a KDE Plasma dev, I always counted on us getting better, but I didn't expect the competition to get so much worse. We'd be flamed to high and heaven for shipping broken notification popups and rendering glitches like that in a prod release. What happened internally to cause this, I wonder?

There’s no way this was developed by Apple. I keep thinking that they outsourced the macOS development to some amateurs online and took a year off traveling the world. Looking at the screenshots and review videos, I cannot believe how ugly and out of proportion it is. Normally, there would be a consistent design and some people like it while others don’t. But this is simply ugly.

My guess is that it’s all product managers and “designers” now, a whole religion of procedures and terminology, and unfortunately very little engineering of the kinds that some of the early Ux pioneers applied.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by fatata123 »

asadotzler wrote: post #123

Apple no longer cares about disabled people. Transparent UI, with controls sitting on top of arbitrary and changing content can NEVER be legible/discernible. Apple knows this, but fashion was more important than function and they decided, "who cares about disabled people, anyway." Microsoft learned this lesson back in the Vista era but Apple's charging ahead with this terrible set of changes that will literally disab…

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Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by unboxingelf »

Who is macOS designed for? I assume a non negligible customer base are software professionals and this iOSification of the desktop is borderline hostile. I don’t get it.

Re: macOS Tahoe

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Post by unboxingelf »

drnick1 wrote: post #467

I am the only one to think that these days, GNOME and KDE are more usable than anything made by Microsoft or Apple? I think part of the reason is that devs working on these projects don't have an incentive to make arbitrary changes like people who need to justify their paychecks.

You’re not the only one.
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