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Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by simgt »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #396
simgt wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But, someone buying stuff made by their employer is not what harms them. It is exactly what harms them. With that logic one can defend keeping children in tantalum mines in the supply chain of an iPhone. That's not an acceptable status quo... Removing the market for immoral exploitation of beings and the environment is a necessary step. The size of the market for things made fairly needs to grow.

There are kids in Congo that are claiming to be older than they are so they can get work in mines to feed themselves and their families. If they don’t work they and their families starve, but if they do work they are encouraging immoral child labor. I don’t understand why many people think the answer is easy and straightforward in that case, this sounds like the trolley problem to me.

The people involved in international aid in particular know fine well that it's not an easy problem to solve... Exploitation and corruption is at every level here. For a children in Congo it may be a better option if the only alternative is to starve, but let's not pretend that everyone from the mine owner to the smartphone buyer is not profiting from that situation.

As a consumer one of the few immediate means of action we have is to at least refuse these products when we can... Then yeah, vote, donate, get involved for these kids to live decently.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by gruez »

dingnuts wrote: post #377
arghwhat wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I personally feel bad for the environment 1 item per day is certainly not efficient, but nowadays temu and aliexpress batch things over a small period so that shouldn't really happen... > and all the people on the losing side of cheap low quality junk production Remember that taking away bad jobs does not save anyone, quite the contrary. People go from having shit jobs to no jobs, or even worse jobs with lower-prof…

> Helping them requires creating vast numbers of better paying jobs with better working condition in their country, which require redirecting vast amounts of money to those countries This was the logic under Deng, and the reason China is now a peer state. Unfortunately when doing business with communists, enriching them doesn't help the individuals move out of poverty because that would require wages to rise and that…

>Unfortunately when doing business with communists, enriching them doesn't help the individuals move out of poverty because that would require wages to rise and that happens for political reasons not merit in a single party system

But poverty has dropped and income has risen under the CCP? You can argue that the CCP doesn't actually care about "individuals moving out of poverty", and all they care about is staying in power, but this is the sort of accusation that could be levied against governments in the west as well.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by RankingMember »

datadrivenangel wrote: post #421
matsemann wrote: post #375

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Is it any difference than shopping from Amazon, except you don't have to pay the dropshipping markup?

Worse support. Amazon usually will try and make you whole-ish, aliexpress is like lmao

Hmm, with one exception, every time I've had an issue it was resolved with a full refund within 5 minutes. They do make you give them a picture of the issue.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

genewitch wrote: post #486
neogodless wrote: post #473

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Do you mean this is the point of a carefully planned, deliberated, executed, and announced tariff rollout, or do you mean that's the whole point of tariffs as they are currently being implemented in the United States?

The tariffs that were announced during the campaign - the same way Ross Perot did - and the reasoning was to bring us manufacturing back to the US and reduce the tax burden on US citizens? Such as writing off car payments if the car is American? People wigged out over non-reciprocal tariffs, where we tariff at 50% what they charge the US. People wigged out at 10℅ flat rate tariffs. "Heard island penguins get charged…

The weird thing about Heard Island is that it was specifically called out in a list that did not even include every country.

It wasn't that a flat 10% tariff implies that even non-populated islands have a 10% tariff.

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Post by footlose_3815 »

zamalek wrote: post #411

I wonder if we can look forward to the end of the letter soup brands on Amazon, it's ridiculously difficult finding real brands in between them. That would be one silver lining in all this mess, at least.

You may get rid of that, but it's still Amazon. Just recently, they fuzzed all their search results further, so when you search for something, it will give you lots of stuff you didn't search for. Similar to how Facebook Marketplace does.

I think the only way to avoid disappointment is to avoid Amazon altogether. Their customer experience is extremely deceptive and engineered to make you spend the most money. From the featured searches all the way to how it charges you paid shipping instead of free at checkout.

We should all feel burned enough at this point and stop rewarding them. Bezos purchased the Washington Post for all this money, and he won't stop there.

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by RankingMember »

bognition wrote: post #323
0xTJ wrote: post #316

Good. They're pushing overpriced low-quality junk. If you want to buy from Temu but want a better chance at reasonable prices, shop AliExpress.

Not only that, their ads are incredibly invasive, often taking over the majority of a page.

Whoever's doing the "design" on Temu and Ali seems to think all Americans want to feel like they're in Vegas while shopping. It's very obnoxious, to the point that people have created plug-ins to clean things up (e.g. AliTools Shopping Assistant, AliRadar).

Re: Temu pulls its U.S. Google Shopping ads

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Post by throwawaymaths »

genewitch wrote: post #486
neogodless wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean this is the point of a carefully planned, deliberated, executed, and announced tariff rollout, or do you mean that's the whole point of tariffs as they are currently being implemented in the United States?

The tariffs that were announced during the campaign - the same way Ross Perot did - and the reasoning was to bring us manufacturing back to the US and reduce the tax burden on US citizens? Such as writing off car payments if the car is American? People wigged out over non-reciprocal tariffs, where we tariff at 50% what they charge the US. People wigged out at 10℅ flat rate tariffs. "Heard island penguins get charged…

well to be fair to parent, the tariffs weren't exactly rolled out in a sane fashion and a lot of credibility was lost along the way, though it certainly was entertaining if you're a sicko like me.

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Post by jillyboel »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #440
zamalek wrote: post #411

I wonder if we can look forward to the end of the letter soup brands on Amazon, it's ridiculously difficult finding real brands in between them. That would be one silver lining in all this mess, at least.

15 different variants of the same product, all obviously cheaply made from the same factory, with varying degrees of quality control and reviews strewn about the various “brands” of the product so that it’s much harder to have a negative review everywhere. Yeah, this sucks. Though the correct thing to do here is to enforce this hygiene on the platforms themselves. They have every resource and means to be able to prev…

It's all just the same crap you'd find sold by a "proper" retailer. Where do you think they get their stuff from?

I'll gladly take the cheaper alternatives instead of being charged 2 or 3 times the amount I'd pay if I import it myself.

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Post by bgnn »

flappyeagle wrote: post #363
grey-area wrote: post #352

Interesting dynamic here with echoes of the .com bubble where there is a huge web of industries all dependent on the current setup continuing and money being available for consumer spending and ads - when that dries up it will impact not just those selling goods imported from China, but everyone in the US. Disrupting US trade quickly with massive global tariffs will cause all sorts of secondary effects like a massive…

Conclusion is wrong here. There’s plenty of bid for the ad inventory. Google and meta are extremely resilient to this kind of thing

I can't see how can add industry be resilient to recession. Maybe if you switch to selling ads for government propaganda?

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Post by jen20 »

idopmstuff wrote: post #490
wahnfrieden wrote: post #474

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I love it in terms of consumer experience. I like several products from AliExpress and the like, but sometimes find they're available for the same price or cheaper and faster with better customer service from Amazon. I don't care that they have generic brand names in either case

I'm with you. I don't really understand the complaints, since Amazon's return policy means that you aren't really taking a risk when you buy, even from randomly-named brands.

That rather depends on your ability to evaluate what you get. I have no qualms telling non-technical people "buy USB-C chargers from the Apple Store", knowing perfectly well what quality I will get. However, you can't even guarantee you'll get something genuine from Amazon anymore even if you select that exact same product.
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