Introducing Copilot+ PCs • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by WuxiFingerHold » Tue, May 21, 2024, 3:58 AM UTC

bambax wrote: post #272

> We set out to solve one of the most frustrating problems we encounter daily – finding something we know we have seen before on our PC. Today, we must remember what file folder it was stored in, what website it was on, or scroll through hundreds of emails trying to find it. It is indeed frustrating that one still cannot search effectively a local device, but it doesn't need AI to solve. It needs a proper search engi…

Yep, but fd and rg work fine on Windows. However those CLI tools are not for pure Windows people, I admit.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by lannisterstark » Tue, May 21, 2024, 3:59 AM UTC

cromka wrote: post #407

orph wrote: post #278

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It made sense when I named GitHub Copilot, since that product was a passive addition to your regular workflow. The name was sticky enough that they've run with it, misunderstanding or ignoring that fundamental metaphor.

This is what happens when engineers borrow the concepts previously created by dedicated teams. Happens a lot with UX/UI, too.

I can almost guarantee you that this was a sales exec decision rather than an engineering decision.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by toast0 » Tue, May 21, 2024, 4:07 AM UTC

jonathankoren wrote: post #239

isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

> Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. It’s Watson. Ha ha, only serious. You’re right. It feels like an umbrella brand they’re just tossing around, because AI — and Copilot in particular — is hot in Redmond. I find the new Copilot key funny, because it feels like a pantomime of the Windows 95 keys[0], but with Logitech characteristics. [*] Okay, it’s been 30 years. I haven’t used a Windows computer in al…

The windows key is pretty handy. Lots of good shortcuts, and they add new useful ones often. I don't tend to hit it by itself much anymore, because the start menu is so terrible and inconsistent, and anyway, we only run three programs anymore.

I don't think I've used the menu key... If I want to right click, there's the mouse, or mousekeys... But maybe I just missed out on learning to use it. Mostly everything in the context menu is in other places too that you might get to with the keyboard.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by firejake308 » Tue, May 21, 2024, 4:14 AM UTC

Their Recall feature reminds me of a startup called Rem that posted on here a few weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38787892

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by deeznuttynutz » Tue, May 21, 2024, 4:14 AM UTC

pfist wrote: post #230

LelouBil wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the latest ones it's fair because the S is a lower tier to the X

Sure, but the problem is S and X sound very similar when spoken, causing more confusion. Try clarifying which one you are talking about in a loud room at a conference.

All that is missing is the "Xbox E", hopefully the next one will be called that. Let's pray we get a special Tesla edition on launch day.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by aagha » Tue, May 21, 2024, 4:14 AM UTC

OnionBlender wrote: post #182

> "Easily find and remember what you have seen in your PC with Recall" I can't even get Windows File Explorer to reliably search for a file by name. It frequently freezes or shows no results.

Everything by Void

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by aagha » Tue, May 21, 2024, 4:15 AM UTC

aquir wrote: post #58

The only issue is that these all run Windows…bloated, annoying, privacy intrusive in-your-face OS

Pay for Pro.

No ads.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by mhh__ » Tue, May 21, 2024, 4:20 AM UTC

isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

A Microsoft employee did once joke to me that if Microsoft had invented the holy grail it would be called the Microsoft life preserver 3.4 Pro+ or something like that

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by mhh__ » Tue, May 21, 2024, 4:23 AM UTC

mmcnl wrote: post #268

delusional wrote: post #18

The AI is the least interesting part of this announcement. Microsoft is giving ARM another try with a special branding that's supposed to guarantee some level of performance and quality. That's possibly huge news.

Exactly. They're now aggressively competing with Apple with supposedly better performance and better battery life. That's huge. Apple was years ahead with the introduction of the M1 but it appears competition has finally caught up. All of this has to be proven in real life though, but so far all the newly announced ARM devices [0] look like impressive MacBook competitors on their own. [0] So far it seems this are the…

I'd bet a tenner that they've caught up with where apple was 3 years ago rather than 1 year ago, at best.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by geophph » Tue, May 21, 2024, 4:24 AM UTC

wvenable wrote: post #483

geophph wrote: post #467

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Still blows my mind that, in the year 2024, it is still unable to open two workbooks with the same name

It would break the VBA API.

Well at least I know why now. Thx