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Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Ah but is that the Xbox 1, the Xbox One, the Xbox One X or the Xbox Series X?

This is the naming convention you get when you hire engineers based off of “edit distance” Leetcode problems.

Engineers named the Xbox One X "Scorpio", which is a much cooler name.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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This is the naming convention you get when you hire engineers based off of “edit distance” Leetcode problems.

No, it is the branding you get when you recycle your marketing team every product iteration.

The two seem to go hand-in-hand

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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I believe this is only the beginning of the modern OS with a user-interface that is based around AI. Imagine the platform lock-in from a lifetimes worth of meta-data around interactions with an AI agent, which obviously will not be transferable between vendors.

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If the following does not happen in 2 years I will eat my hat: They will have performance problems. They will have compatibility problems. They will have poor repairability and zero repair network and support. The software will be abandoned and completely useless within 18 months. They will fail very early but just outside a standard 1 year warranty. This will be a lot of e-waste. Regulatory or national bodies will s…

They've been selling ARM Surface devices for a while now. Not sure why these would suddenly fall over and stop working.

Even if the AI stuff doesn't pan out that doesn't make it e-waste, that just makes it a normal PC that could do everything previous PCs could do anyway.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Apple WWDC is in three weeks. I am not sure they can change anything based on the Microsoft announcement.

I am sure Apple is not surprised by any of this and they are not too worried. They have had competent arm chips for years and will board the ai hypetrain in time.

Just cannot wait to see what they have been cooking :)

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

dotnet for me is the most obvious example of how terrible they are at branding. First there was .NET framework which was windows only (note I'm ignoring Xamarian because it was originally not owned by MS).

Then they decided to do a reboot with cross platform support and named that Dotnet Core. This was honestly fine. But then we reach late in the 3.x timeframe and they declare for real and for true that Framework is a dead end, and Dotnet Core will be the one true Dotnet moving forward. And to indicate this, the next version will remove Core from the name, skip 4 because it would be too confusing with Framework, and just call it Dotnet 5.

I wish they'd stuck with the Core name, if no other reason so if they decide in another 15 years to do a major rebuild again they can just come up with another new descriptor the way Core described the transition away from Framework and towards real cross platform support from MS itself.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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post #143

If the following does not happen in 2 years I will eat my hat: They will have performance problems. They will have compatibility problems. They will have poor repairability and zero repair network and support. The software will be abandoned and completely useless within 18 months. They will fail very early but just outside a standard 1 year warranty. This will be a lot of e-waste. Regulatory or national bodies will s…

They've been selling ARM Surface devices for a while now. Not sure why these would suddenly fall over and stop working. Even if the AI stuff doesn't pan out that doesn't make it e-waste, that just makes it a normal PC that could do everything previous PCs could do anyway.

Mostly implied by that large pile of dead Surface machines we had which weren't even remotely repairable and lasted 12-18 months...

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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> The new Flex Keyboard, which costs $450 and comes with a Slim Pen... [0] At that price, I would expect a Generously Voluminous Pen and a whole lot more... [0] https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/20/24160707/microsoft-surfac...

They have surely just looked at the price of an iPad Magic Keyboard + Apple Pencil and thought, “yeah we can probably get away with that too”.

Not sure how well that will go given that even the most ardent Apple fans will concede that a keyboard case costing approximately the same as one whole entry-level iPad is a bit much.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

> Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled.

It’s Watson.

Ha ha, only serious. You’re right. It feels like an umbrella brand they’re just tossing around, because AI — and Copilot in particular — is hot in Redmond.

I find the new Copilot key funny, because it feels like a pantomime of the Windows 95 keys[0], but with Logitech characteristics.

[*] Okay, it’s been 30 years. I haven’t used a Windows computer in almost as long, and so I ask. Do people who use Windows actually use any of those keys? It always seemed weird that you’d need the start menu at a single button press, and the right click menu at a keyboard press felt even weirder. I think I only used the Windows key as a meta under Linux, and I don’t think I ever hit the context menu key out of anything but curiosity.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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As it has been said so many times, tech privacy aware people are the minority. It won't make any difference for my non-tech neighbor (in fact, he will probably be delighted if it helps him with something).

Not if you tell them beware, all this will be used against you in some way in the future.

Doesn't the fact that lots of people use Facebook daily despite the scandals say something?

It's abundantly clear that most people don't care about how their data are used. Here "most" means people outside HN.

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