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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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So you are doing something like 400 queries a month and the aggregate value of all those responses is less than $20 to you? I've got to ask, why bother querying it at all?

Thats stupid, I use search engines much much more than 400 times a month and they are free.

"Best new 2023 top 10 monetized link page match you like it please adword affiliate link such many money give me".

Take my $20.00

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#492

I think a personal subscription model where ChatGPT Plus subscribers are given personal API access for use with third-party open source apps (e.g., Chrome extensions, Siri Shortcuts, VSCode extensions) would be extremely valuable and much more lucrative than selling to specific companies. OpenAI has the opportunity to become the next fundamental utility provider for society. In the same way everybody has a data plan…

Selling SaaS services B2B vs B2C is a large topic, and which one's more lucrative for OpenAI is hard to pin down. How many individuals do you know pay for Google Workspaces or Office365, vs how many companies pay for it? Or how about GitHub CoPilot? Or Trello? Obviously those are different products which makes direct comparison hard, but people don't pay for things, that's why there's stealing, and why so many things are ad-supported or ad-"enhanced".

We are in the midst of tech giants fighting, with the consumer as the loser. (Quick, try and buy a book in the Kindle app on iOS!) I don't see a future where it's possible to run (whatever evolves into being) speech ChatGPT on an Apple device with Apple support.

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#493

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Seems like you would have to declare an entity to receive funds which is a no-no if you’re setting out to do something illegal.

It's not illegal yet to train an LLM. Best to get started before they lock it down and entrench the monopolies.

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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

You own that monitor. Would you pay $20/month to rent that monitor with the potential for price increases and ads popping up on it occasionally? There's something to "owning" a thing. You can resell it and rent it out, etc. It's an asset. SaaS is not an asset. It's a service.

I pay more than that for electricity and fuel. It's not strictly renting and there are no ad pop-ups, but it's a recurring expenditure and prices can (and did) increase. Once I use it, it's gone - I can't resell or rent it either.

It still makes sense for me to pay because I get more value compared to if I didn't.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#495
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Right? $1/workday and you still get to use it evenings and weekends. No wonder b2b is the way.

I mean, I can pay 0$ and still use it. It's free.

Except when you can't. It's routinely over capacity for free users.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#496

> challenge incorrect assumptions. I say this without any charge, but this is a MAJOR ethical concern. They're encoding pro liberal ideology and bias against conservative / religious based ideology. https://venturebeat.com/ai/openai-claims-to-have-mitigated-b... You may disagree with either ideology, but there's some major implications there -- regardless of who it's bias against. A uniform society is a weak society.…

LLMs get more liberal the more you educate them, just like a human.

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#497

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So you are doing something like 400 queries a month and the aggregate value of all those responses is less than $20 to you? I've got to ask, why bother querying it at all?

Thats stupid, I use search engines much much more than 400 times a month and they are free.

And if someone offered you $20 a month to never use a search engine would you really take it?

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#498

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While I have your ear, please implement some way to do third party integrations safely. There’s a tool called GhostWrite which autocompletes emails for you, powered by ChatGPT. But I can’t use it, because that would mean letting some random company get access to all my emails. The same thing happened with code. There’s a ChatGPT integration for pycharm, but I can’t use it since it’ll be uploading the code to someone…

Tl;dr "Dear CTO, let me leech onto this unrelated topic to ask you to completely remove ways you gather data (even though it's the core way you create any of your products)." Some people man..

I think you may have misread. The goal is to protect end users from random companies taking your data. OpenAI themselves should be the ones to get the data, not the other companies.

That wouldn't remove anything. Quite the contrary, they'd be in a stronger position for it, since the companies won't have access to e.g. your email, or your code, whereas OpenAI will.

I'm fine trusting OpenAI with that kind of sensitive info. But right now there are several dozen new startups launching every month, all powered by ChatGPT. And they're all vying for me to send them a different aspect of my life, whether it's email or code or HN comments. Surely we can agree that HN comments are fine to send to random companies, but emails aren't.

I suspect that this pattern is going to become a big issue in the near future. Maybe I'll turn out to be wrong about that.

It's also not my choice in most cases. I want to use ChatGPT in a business context. But that means the company I work for needs to also be ok with sending their confidential information to random companies. Who would possibly agree to such a thing? And that's a big segment of the market lost.

Whereas I think companies would be much more inclined to say "Ok, but as long as OpenAI are the only ones to see it." Just like they're fine with Google holding their email.

Or I'm completely wrong about this and users/companies don't care about privacy at all. I'd be surprised, but I admit that's a possibility. Maybe ChatGPT will be that good.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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I feel they are not playing their cards right. Obv ChatGPT is a huge success and more importantly, very useful. But it's clear that soon Google Search will have something similar for users and for free because they display ads. How many people are going to pay $20 for ChatGPT then even if it's slightly better? (for the web interface, not talking about the API) I know they are still making it free for everyone, but th…

Google has this really annoying habit of dumbing down their services sufficiently to make them work with like 80% of the population (guesstimate). Do you really think Google will create a consumer-facing version of ChatGPT that has the same power and expressibility? I very strongly doubt it. It's not in their DNA.

They have to do something or they will become obsolete. I'm sure they are working on it in full force.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#500

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Generative code models trained on buggy, unmaintainable code snippets resulting in a buggy, unmaintainable codebase that only the model can manage. Genius.

Exec: Fix the login bug in production. ChatGPT: There is no login bug in production. Exec: Yes there is, run the login integration test. ChatGPT: The test passes. Exec: But I can't log in! ChatGPT: Works for me.

So life like.
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