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I'm in the EU. WhatsApp showed me a screen about new term of service right now. There were two buttons, Agree and Not Now. I tapped Not Now, it kept working.
Interesting. I am in the EU as well and got the new terms of service screen. Only an Agree button, but I could avoid agreeing (I hope) by clicking the cross (X) at the top of the dialog.
For example: What should be my response to questions like: . "What kind of data can now be shared with FB versus what was shared earlier (if any)?"
. "Whatsapp chats are end to end encrypted so how can my data be shared with FB?"
. "As an individual, how different is Whatsapp sharing my data with FB for ad/tracking purposes versus what other networks such as Google do to serve ads? Let's say I'm interested in ice-cream and I chat with someone about it and a couple of days later, I get ads about ice-cream, but I choose to ignore those ads, then how am I impacted/affected?"
The part that creeps me out the most is WhatsApp’s aggressiveness towards getting your Contacts. Other apps want them but WhatsApp hardly works without the permission. Why hasn’t Apple introduced a private/segmented Contacts permission like they have Photos, Location, etc.?
This has been a very long time due. An ability to give untrustworthy software an access to a sandboxed blank copy of Contacts would've been very useful. As a side note, Telegram is the same as WhatsApp. You can't start a chat on a fresh install unless you give it an access to the contacts. There's no way to manually add in-app contacts. Given how "pro-privacy" they are supposed to be, this was rather disconcerting to…
Does not work for me in Firefox, but in Chrome on Android, I can start a new chat without access to the contacts. I agree that it is weird though!
I am in the EU, and this is what I have been presented with: „ By tapping Agree, you accept the new terms, which take effect on February 8, 2021. After this date, you’ll need to accept the new terms to continue using WhatsApp. You can also visit the Help Center if you would prefer to delete your account and would like more information. To learn more about how WhatsApp processes your data, read our updated privacy pol…
I am mostly using Signal and will let my WhatsApp expire.
I also think matrix is great and would recommend setting up an account by installing element. I think growth in matrix will more fully undermine FB's position as well as Slack/etc.
I am in the EU, and this is what I have been presented with: „ By tapping Agree, you accept the new terms, which take effect on February 8, 2021. After this date, you’ll need to accept the new terms to continue using WhatsApp. You can also visit the Help Center if you would prefer to delete your account and would like more information. To learn more about how WhatsApp processes your data, read our updated privacy pol…
It was always a clear business transaction: acess to a messenging service for access to meta data (and now message data). I wonder how Out of curiosity: Does anyone know how the new Whatsapp TOS differ from the Gmail TOS in regard to user data and privacy. How does the Facebook group use data differently than, say Facebook or Microsoft?
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I've used Signal for years, and for most of that time only had about three people who also used it in my contacts. My wife recently got her entire extended family to use Signal. She has always refused to use WhatsApp. They all love Signal now, and use it all the time. However, this was during a family crisis. During the Covid lockdowns, many companies I know used Signal as their preferred non corporate communication…
I am moving to Signal too. Group by Group. May not happen over night, but in few weeks
Yeah, thanks but no thanks.
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Telegram is fantastic! Frankly I think it has a better ux then Whatsapp, especially considering the desktop apps.
Telegram isn't serious about privacy. They made my number searchable and notified people who have me in their Google contact list even though I didn't grant Telegram access to my contact list (before the time when Android would enforce this with permissions) and didn't allow them to use my number for anything. Then it turned out that they have a setting where one can opt out, but what good is that if you already were…
I'd love to give up WhatsApp, but network effects are key here. I tried moving my extended family off WhatsApp onto Signal a couple of years ago and it failed miserably because the app wasn't nearly as easy to use, and they had all their friends on Whatsapp. Has anyone here had any success moving a large group of people onto something like Signal or Telegram? If so, do you have any tips?
Signal is much harder to sell to non-tech users IMHO.