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The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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> it is not that the facts it reports tend to be inaccurate yes it is. I really lost faith in nyt when they ran article about running out of running out of charge in a Tesla. When they were caught red handed lying they still wouldn't admit to it. Their response was: "Problems With Precision and Judgment, but Not Integrity, in Tesla Test" They just don't get it. People are sick of their BS and they need to just comp t…

If you think the New York Times is bad, you should try looking up all of the crazy assertions made by Fox News show hosts.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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There are plenty of mentions for Bill Clinton: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=nws&sxsrf=ALeKk01S6XwWBraA...

But, crucially, no mentions of him _staying on the island_. If this was Trump, there'd be wall-to-wall 24x7 saturation coverage.

Bill Clinton isn’t president.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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I've always felt that conspiracy theorists provide a certain value to the internet. They are almost the vaccine itself to misinformation. The foreign pathogen that teaches the body to defend itself from a worse foe. If you can't understand, and also form a series of arguments for yourself, as to why the tin foil hat conspiracy theorist is wrong, why the earth almost certainly isn’t flat, or run by a cabal of shapeshi…

I'm all for conspiracies when they don't cause harm, you think the earth is flat and chemtrails control your mind good for you buddy, now I know not to trust your judgement. But once you've go nevermaskers and antivaxers running around infecting and killing people, or pizzagaters shooting up restaurants the hands off approach becomes a public health issue. Conspiracy theorists have gone from benign to damn dangerous…

It seems to me that conspiracy theories have also evolved from being mostly apolitical to being very based lately. It could be argued that the act of voting when being so blatantly misinformed and misled is itself a danger to the public.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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> but the fact that this thing is being pumped through the lie pipelines that originate with places like RT They have originated with events on the ground widely reported by independent journalists, citizens and local news. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo What people here are doing is dismissing the overall picture of what's happening on the ground in Portland based on a few misreported facts. No matter that that are h…

I'd be careful trusting anything being piped from Andy Ngo, he has a history of being affiliated with, and giving preferential coverage to some pretty nasty far-right groups [1]. [1]: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/andy-n...

>I'd be careful trusting anything being piped from Andy Ngo

This is supposed to prove that hundreds of videos posted there (many of which are sourced and attributed) are all fake? This sort of ad-hominem nonsense is getting beyond ridiculous.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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It doesn't work. Because what if you pay 0.5$ for an article, and then you find out it's not what you expected/badly written/... You basically are not happy and less likely to do it again. If you put payment to the end, then people are less willing to pay, because they already consumed the article. You can't take the information out of the head again if he's not willing to pay. It's a tricky thing

A possibility would be a (global, publication independent) subscription service like this: you pay a fixed amount in each month (say, ten dollars). Then every time you read an article from a website that subscribes to the service, if you liked the article you click on a widget. At the end of the month, the ten dollars are redistributed to the publishers in proportion to your clicks. So payment is voluntary but the to…

I fully support this. But publishing houses don't. They don't see the benefit.

Also with the a volunteer voting system you could use that to signal to people without a subscription what articles were "good", "controversial", ... to increase chances of a "buy-per-page" for like 10 cents per article.

Or something, I feel like the possibilities are vast, but publishing houses need to collaborate. Which they don't like to.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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The NYT is wildly inaccurate on foreign affairs regularly. For an exceptionally famous example, recall their reporting on WMDs in Iraq for which they have never squarely apologized. https://nypost.com/2004/05/27/nyt-whispers-apology-for-wmd-s...

Comparatively, are they more inaccurate than other news outlets? If so, which are some that you would say are more accurate in their reporting of foreign affairs?

Every news outlet is owned by a small circle of concentrated power these days from wealthy families to corporate conglomerates that bizarrely fail to be harshly critical of things that would impact their wealth and businesses.

You can try reading e.g. The Intercept, local papers, Democracy Now for a different spin on things, but there's only one thing that actually works is reading several sources, including the papers from "the other side" and trying to figure out which story line makes logical sense. Usually lies are poorly constructed and contain a combination of paradoxes, deference to authority, and appeal to various fears without a firm logical basis. Pay close attention to verifiable information and evidence. Those are the only pieces of information that can be trusted from either the state or journalists.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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A possibility would be a (global, publication independent) subscription service like this: you pay a fixed amount in each month (say, ten dollars). Then every time you read an article from a website that subscribes to the service, if you liked the article you click on a widget. At the end of the month, the ten dollars are redistributed to the publishers in proportion to your clicks. So payment is voluntary but the to…

I fully support this. But publishing houses don't. They don't see the benefit. Also with the a volunteer voting system you could use that to signal to people without a subscription what articles were "good", "controversial", ... to increase chances of a "buy-per-page" for like 10 cents per article. Or something, I feel like the possibilities are vast, but publishing houses need to collaborate. Which they don't like t…

Not sure what the publishing houses would think about this, but how's the collaboration needed? You can create the service and distribute the widget; and if at first it will be used only by independent bloggers I don't see the issue. More commercial players might use it too if they think it can increase their revenues- maybe test it for a subset of articles at first.

I understand that the idea has tons of limitations but it might solve the issue of micropayments with their tiny amounts and the constant need to decide whether to pay or not to pay.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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Comparatively, are they more inaccurate than other news outlets? If so, which are some that you would say are more accurate in their reporting of foreign affairs?

Every news outlet is owned by a small circle of concentrated power these days from wealthy families to corporate conglomerates that bizarrely fail to be harshly critical of things that would impact their wealth and businesses. You can try reading e.g. The Intercept, local papers, Democracy Now for a different spin on things, but there's only one thing that actually works is reading several sources, including the pape…

> Every news outlet is owned by a small circle of concentrated power these days from wealthy families to corporate conglomerates that bizarrely fail to be harshly critical of things that would impact their wealth and businesses.

I smile a bit as I think about visiting the Hearst Castle in California—I wonder how news ownership has changed over the years.

Regarding the rest, I appreciate how you framed it and love that approach of various sources, plus really dig the process suggestions you put. Thank you.

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