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The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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Getting things wrong on occasion is better than having some sort of idiot free for all.

Maybe, but a well told lie told by The One Authority on Truth has more destructive power than a billion chaos monkeys typing on their typewriters for the next hundred generations.

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Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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> You want the detailed Times reports on neo-Nazis infiltrating German institutions, the reasons contact tracing is failing in U.S. states, or the Trump administration’s undercutting of the USPS’s effectiveness—well, if you’ve clicked around the website a bit you’ll run straight into the paywall. Excuse me but why would I want to pay for that ? I don't earn by reading articles online and the news websites are already…

Don't even use Infowars and NYT in the same sentence. The NYT has some notable shortcomings, but Infowars is straight-up propaganda used by its host to shill for questionable food supplements and fake corona-virus cures. https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahrosenbaum/2020/04/09/infowa...

I'm pretty conservative, and I hate the antisemitism at the NY Times. Yet, I pay for a subscription because there are some basic standards to their reporting that are worth it, even though their editorial slant doesn't always match up with mine.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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> it is not that the facts it reports tend to be inaccurate

yes it is.

I really lost faith in nyt when they ran article about running out of running out of charge in a Tesla. When they were caught red handed lying they still wouldn't admit to it. Their response was: "Problems With Precision and Judgment, but Not Integrity, in Tesla Test"

They just don't get it. People are sick of their BS and they need to just comp to it and change. The days of BSing people are over.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/automobiles/stalled-on-th...

https://www.tesla.com/blog/most-peculiar-test-drive

https://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/18/problems-w...

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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There's been a lot of coverage around false-flag sorts of behavior in Portland, but the fact that this thing is being pumped through the lie pipelines that originate with places like RT (Russian state-controlled media) is kinda a dead giveaway. We can get into a nuanced discussion of "is it really lying" since there's a video, but I have not been a party to any conversations in my lifetime that start with a nuanced d…

1) There are protestors 2) They are doing things 3) "Protestors are doing things" is a lie because they might not "actually" be part of the protestors but instead be false-flag undercover agents? That's wild. You can't have a functioning press under those assumptions, because you don't know for absolute certain that everything is the way it looks. Donald Trump might be a long-term agent of the Democratic Party aiming…

There is a long, long history of false-flag operations undertaken during protests. Some caution is advised when deciding whether any one action is taken by genuine protesters, especially when it's as comically "unpatriotic" as burning the bible and flag.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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Public broadcasting in Germany is no better than private media. In fact most topics are reported the same and even the opinion is the same. But even ignoring this, it is a big problem that publicly funded media is in direct economic competition with privately funded media. This is exacerbated by the official entertainment mission (Unterhaltungsauftrag[1]) and the usage of advertisement. [1]: https://www.die-medienans…

I'm German. Public broadcasting, including ARD/ZDF but also countless of local radio station is without a doubt significantly better in quality than BILD/RTL or other private tabloid media, and it's one of the reasons the country still has by and large a shared reality when it comes to political discussion. I don't think that they also provide entertainment is in any way problematic, because entertainment is part of…

> I'm German. Public broadcasting, including ARD/ZDF but also countless of local radio station is without a doubt significantly better in quality than BILD/RTL or other private tabloid media

Better than FAZ, ZEIT, Spiegel? That's the private media you should compare the news sections to, and I have some doubts that anybody thinks Public Broadcaster by and large have a similar level of journalistic integrity & quality.

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

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The government, scientists, experts in various fields, people who have proven to tell the truth in the past, etc. You obviously still have your own ability to determine what fits your model of the universe and what doesn't. These are just groups of people more likely to have access to information that you might not. You don't have to trust anyone, but in a system where someone has to judge what is true, these groups…

Governments, scientists, and experts have also been proven to be wrong and to have lied in the past.

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Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

#178

The linked article concludes: "Creators must be compensated well. But at the same time we have to try to keep things that are important and profound from getting locked away where few people will see them. The truth needs to be free and universal." Let's also consider whether lies should be made more expensive. Free costs more than it's worth.

As always, who judges whether something is true?

You can. And there's an easy way to smell test a source:

What's their response to verification? People who are lying are going to say either you can't or don't want to check up on them. At some point, they're going to say "trust me".

Never trust someone who asks for your trust. Someone trustworthy isn't concerned whether or not you trust them. They will just say, "Fine, here's what I used. Show me what I missed."

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

#179

> it is not that the facts it reports tend to be inaccurate yes it is. I really lost faith in nyt when they ran article about running out of running out of charge in a Tesla. When they were caught red handed lying they still wouldn't admit to it. Their response was: "Problems With Precision and Judgment, but Not Integrity, in Tesla Test" They just don't get it. People are sick of their BS and they need to just comp t…

> The days of BSing people are over.

Really?

Re: The Truth Is Paywalled but the Lies Are Free

#180

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"Objectivity" in journalism does not mean unbiased, or The Truth. Simple recipe to follow: - Show your work. - Cite your sources. - Corroborate. - Sign your name. - Admit your mistakes. Voila, you're a journalist.

> Cite your sources. We're on the Internet. Link your sources or provide them as raw footage. At least it'd eliminate some attempts to modify/exaggerate news like the CNN is doing all the time.

those mean the same thing...
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