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Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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What makes you think "processed" and "chemicals" are bad for you?

Specifically there's suspicion regarding soy protein isolates which are produced in an industrial setting using hexane: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2010/04/a-study-found-he... additionally, soy's estrogenic nature (combined with the disproportionately widespread use of soy in processed food products, which would be the "not natural" part) is suspected of having potential influences on breast cancer, male fert…

The soy thing is long disproved.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/soy/

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> bootlicking drivel Who's boots? What are you talking about? I didn't make a single value judgement in favor of one system or the other! Be civil! > abolishing capitalism in favour of socialism > There are even variants of socialism that embrace markets and competition, and almost all allow ownership of _personal_ means of production... Socialism and capitalism are not opposite ends of a yardstick. I am _not talking…

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FYI for a lot of folks in here who may not know, Taco Bell is vegan certified. If you order something vegan they will prep it separately and make sure no animal products touched your food. I suspect they might add Impossible Meat (or a competitor) some time soon.

Taco Bell and Burger King are two of the only chains when traveling who will (reliably) vegan/halal certify. Makes sense why we're seeing this adoption from BK early.

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This religious rule comes from a well known scientific observation: meat blocks calcium absorption.

No. That's an extrapolation protein blocking calcium absorption. But unless you eat fake American dairy products like yogurt or "American cheese", there tends to be protein in that cheese. Incidentally, oxalic acid found in spinach also blocks calcium. Also beans and such have similar effect.

American cheese and yogurt have significant protein. American-produced fat free Greek yogurt particularly is high in protein.

You may be thinking of Velveeta and Kraft Singles but they don’t qualify by the FDA to be called processed cheese, they’re a cheese product. But even they have significant protein, albeit less.

https://boarshead.com/products/detail/652-american-cheese-lo...

https://usa.fage/products/yogurt/fage-total-0

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The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

It's a good start, but it's so, so oily, even compared to a meat burger - and the oil seeps out all over the place. It's such a mess that I eat them with a fork. I'd rather eat something like a black bean burger, but I also eat meat so I'm not looking for my vegetable burgers replicate the experience.

Yeah I agree, it's good but it's very clearly not a burger. I'm also not vegetarian, just eat meat only once a week or so.

(But then maybe I'd say the same thing about burger Kings beef burgers too haha)

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The prohibition is against meat and dairy simultaneously. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_law

And finding kosher beef. If you want a kosher burger, you usually need to buy the beef yourself and make your own burger.

Is it really that hard to find kosher beef in US restaurants? What about halal beef?

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The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

Why don't you think that fish is meat?

Not speaking for the OP, but Catholics don’t consider fish or seafood to be meat from a religious perspective when practicing abstinence every Friday (and Ash Wednesday) during Lent.

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As a vegetarian my entire life. I don't think I am the right audience for this. McDonald's in India gets the right mix of potatoes and veggies to make a delicious veggie burger. Trader Joe's has some Spicy Masala Patties that are very good too. Needless to say these are mostly carbs and no protein but the taste is awesome :)

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But you do realize that the environmental cost of animal farming is guaranteed to be >10x the cost of plant farming, correct? Each step up the food chain wastes roughly 90% of the energy, meaning that you need to grow more than 10 kcal of plants to raise 1 kcal of animal. So feeding animals is 10x as expensive as growing plants, in addition to the costs incurred by actually raising the livestock.

That's not exactly true. I do a lot of work for agricultural companies. One such company is a huge supplier of animal feed. Their products are the by-products of sugar production. Raffinate, Betaine, Molasses, Beet Pulp Pellets, etc... These products are very shelf stable and cheap. But they are not the main crop. Sugar Beets are not grown for these by-products. In addition, grazing animals require no such feed. Gras…

However, even if the animals require no food to be purchased by the farmer, there is still an environmental cost in the land being used, plus the opportunity cost of other uses of that land.

Not all land used for grazing can be used to grow plants, true, but in the cases it can be, you're using that land at a 10% kcal efficiency, so to speak.

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