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Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by sebringj »

megaremote wrote: post #423
sebringj wrote: post #409

The impossible 1 is super salty where I've had it in hop doddy and ruby's diner in SoCal. It reminded me more of mince meat type quality, passable but gross. I'm hoping 2 is perfect because I really would prefer to not have to eat cows and have that reduced carbon footprint along with better health. Win win win.

Burgers are made from mince meat though, so I am not sure what you mean?

Canned meat that tastes like cat pate although I assume because I've just smelled it so far (cat food). Not sure exactly sure how to describe the weirdness of the impossible 1.

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Post by packet_nerd »

cmonnow wrote: post #442
packet_nerd wrote: post #390

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For the particular extreme religious community (almost cult) I grew up in, meat eating was a sin (more or less). Financial support for a company wasn't really a big deal, it was more about keeping their bodies "pure" for God. I even knew a rancher who raised cattle to sell, but wouldn't eat any kind of animal products himself.

which religion is this ? I know many Hindus & Jains are strictly vegetarian.

My parents are Christians. There are a few Christian denominations/groups/cults with strict food rules, but definitely fringe.

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Post by erulabs »

kjdndisneinj wrote: post #484
erulabs wrote: post #482

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> bootlicking drivel

Who's boots? What are you talking about? I didn't make a single value judgement in favor of one system or the other!

Be civil!

> abolishing capitalism in favour of socialism

> There are even variants of socialism that embrace markets and competition, and almost all allow ownership of _personal_ means of production...

Socialism and capitalism are not opposite ends of a yardstick. I am _not talking about socialism_. Limiting the ability to own property or trade _is the same thing_ as limiting freedom. One has literally limited the abilities of another. These are not opinions, but rather _pure deduction lead to a non-controversial point_. You can keep insulting me or you can engage. Have a good day!

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Post by danans »

darkpuma wrote: post #469
delfinom wrote: post #413

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You forget that in America, we'll just bail the farmers out and start shoveling subsidized overproduced meat everywhere we can.

That cuts both ways. Corn farmers get massive subsidies which amount to subsidies for soy as well due to the popularity of corn/soy rotation (soy, being a legume, has nitrogen fixation properties that improves soil quality.)

There aren't really "both ways" in the sense that the subsidy is equivalent between meat and other uses.

97% of soy meal (itself 80% of the soybean mass) produced in the US is used to feed animals for meat, not for making soy-based meat substitutes:

https://ncsoy.org/media-resources/uses-of-soybeans/

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Post by kjdndisneinj »

erulabs wrote: post #485
kjdndisneinj wrote: post #484

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> bootlicking drivel Who's boots? What are you talking about? I didn't make a single value judgement in favor of one system or the other! Be civil! > abolishing capitalism in favour of socialism > There are even variants of socialism that embrace markets and competition, and almost all allow ownership of _personal_ means of production... Socialism and capitalism are not opposite ends of a yardstick. I am _not talking…

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Re: Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by darkpuma »

danans wrote: post #486
darkpuma wrote: post #469

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That cuts both ways. Corn farmers get massive subsidies which amount to subsidies for soy as well due to the popularity of corn/soy rotation (soy, being a legume, has nitrogen fixation properties that improves soil quality.)

There aren't really "both ways" in the sense that the subsidy is equivalent between meat and other uses. 97% of soy meal (itself 80% of the soybean mass) produced in the US is used to feed animals for meat, not for making soy-based meat substitutes: https://ncsoy.org/media-resources/uses-of-soybeans/

Cheap soybeans makes meat cheaper, but the production of meat is inherently inefficient. If the production of meat substitutes from soy could be made more efficient than the production of meat from soy, then de facto soy subsidies would disincentivize the consumption of meat.

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Post by amalcon »

int_19h wrote: post #337
danans wrote: post #187

The most interesting thing about this particular announcement is that it may normalize plant-derived meat-substitutes among the typical fast-food-burger eating population, and not just the mostly-vegetarian folks (like myself) who will spend $10 on an Impossible Burger at a fancy sports bar. Within a decade this might just be normalized, and nobody will make much of it.

Yep. I'm not at all a vegetarian, but I will definitely try it, and if it's as good as they say, I see no reason to not prefer it. There's a small subset of the population for whom meat consumption is some kind of cultural statement, but most really only just care about taste, I think. If the same taste can be had in a healthier package and without killing anything, it's a win-win.

At least the 1.0 version was very expensive. Roughly the same mass would cost twice as much. That would be one reason not to prefer it.

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Post by badfrog »

empath75 wrote: post #473
shaggyfrog wrote: post #381

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The prohibition is against meat and dairy simultaneously. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_and_meat_in_Jewish_law

Calling American cheese ‘dairy’ is a little generous.

Why would you say that? The legal minimum is 51% cheese.

https://www.thedailymeal.com/eat/what-exactly-american-chees...

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