So Does that mean that you currently cannot write an app for yourself on iOS without first getting it approved by apple?
Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps
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Android has 85% of the worldwide smartphone market. Apple doesn't exactly have the upper hand in the relationship, but they have enough leverage to make it sting if they decide not to cooperate and to force a reasonable settlement. In my mind, a reasonable settlement includes not installing spyware on users' iPhones through the enterprise development program, so it looks like they're doing precisely that.
> Android has 85% of the worldwide smartphone market I think a mistake to make here is thinking that Apple gives a toss.
Publicly, Apple will say that it doesn't care about Android market share for all the usual reasons John Gruber repeats. But privately, if there was one thing that would keep me up at night as an Apple executive, that number would be it.
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As a developer with a Mac and the knowledge how to do this. That is a very limited subset of iPhone users.
People who want to run their own code on their smartphone are probably already a very limited subset of all users.
Yep yep yep. I can see how, as a developer, it would be galling to face artificial barriers to what you can do on a device that you own. But I don't develop for phones, and as a "dumb" user in this case, I'm really happy that someone is trying to keep it secure for me...
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Of course you should. It's my device, I should be able to do what I want with it. The default should be protected but root should be available.
I 100% agree with you. I should be able to run any code on my device (after I flip a bit and it gets wiped). The first thing I've done with every Nexus or Pixel purpose is to wipe and root it. But that's not what this is about. Apple has been enforcing these rules for years. F.lux tried to get around the App Store by reaching users how to sideload via Xcode. Apple killed it. The big players should be subject to the s…
None of this would be an issue if you could run whatever app you want on an iOS device.
There's many uses cases for kids that are not nefarious in nature. Say a parental lock feature that goes above and beyond what Apple provides out of the box.
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#497I wonder if Apple will ban their own internal apps that they use in Apple Park and Apple Stores.
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Leaving aside whether that's something to reasonably get upset about (how are people supposed to know exactly which facts are known to every single reader of their comment?), the way you're describing it seems pretty identical to the now-mostly-anachronistic expression of being "jewed" out of some money. The fact that the target of the slur doesn't have to be Jewish doesn't make it better; in fact, it kind of makes i…
It's the difference between punching up and punching down.
Meh, those aren't as well-defined as you think they are. Variously, market-dominant minorities have been labelled as "oppressors" throughout history, and "we can be as immoral as we want as long as the victims deserve it" has been cover for all sorts of horrible shit. You can do whatever you want under the aegis of "fighting the power" if you just define "the power" as the people you wanted to be vicious to anyway. It takes a pretty simple-minded view of the world to think that a one-dimensional oppressors/oppressed view of the world is anywhere close to reality, instead of just being convenient cover that can be targeted at pretty much anyone, so shitty people can be regressive and sexist and racist while sitting on their high horse.
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You're not wrong, you're just in the wrong place. Apple is the sysadmin and the phone holders are the users. They WANT apple looking out for them. Anyone who says otherwise stupidly wasted $1000 when they could have bought any number of unlockable devices for that money. I say this with an unlocked and de-googled android phone next to me, and several hacked arm devices at home. I OWN THEM, with no doubt, so I agree w…
Do you run your own firmware on the baseband processor?
The question isn't "do you", but "could you"?
And atm, you couldn't on a locked down device.
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Well put. It is an interesting salvo in what I've started thinking of as the "data war." All three companies have a huge asset in data collection capability, and preventing the others from exploiting it is only the first skirmish among them. It will be interesting to see if Google offers to pay additional monies to Apple in order to "restore" this pipeline, and whether or not Apple will agree. In one sense, Apple alr…
>> In one sense, Apple already gives up a data feed by sending search queries to Google. Apple does this under protest. Their top search queries are served through siri lately, and the hope is siri will replace all search so they won't need to utilize google anymore.
Not under protest, but for profit. The current figures are not public, but Google pays billions annually to Apple to remain the default search engine on iOS.