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Meta workers can opt out of being tracked at work up to 30 min

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Post by ribosometronome »

jessetemp wrote: post #440
staplung wrote: post #412

Reminds me of one of the more brilliant passages in Snow Crash , describing work in "Fed Land"... ''' Y.T's mom pulls up the new memo, checks the time, and starts reading it. The estimated reading time is 15.62 minutes. Later, when Marietta does her end-of-day statistical roundup, sitting in her private office at 9:00 P.M., she will see the name of each employee and next to it, the amount of time spent reading this m…

Makes me wonder what it’s like to identify with the villains in media. Zuck looking at the metaverse and thinking hey that’s a good idea! Or Thanos wasn’t so bad. Those rebel scum had it coming. Homelander is the good guy!

>identify with the villains in media. Zuck looking at the metaverse and thinking hey that’s a good idea!

Are there many stories where the bad guys create the metaverse? AFAIK, Stephenson coined the term in Snow Crash and there it was built by the main character and his buds.

The Matrix, I suppose? Though I think Zuck's (immediate) vision and who he identifies as is way more Hiro Protagonist or James Halliday.

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Post by baggachipz »

siren2026 wrote: post #348
rootusrootus wrote: post #129

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I agree, health care is primary. I see a lot of people on the FIRE forums who are young and haven’t really looked into what insurance can cost in the years leading up to Medicare eligibility age. It’s the best argument for working until close up 60. Personally, I’ve focused on finding a place I enjoy being, rather than optimizing for income and planning to retire ASAP.

Why does everyone absolutely need insurance? Nowadays insurance costs upto 5000$/month with high deductibles and plenty of bureaucracy and paperwork. I have decided to not get any insurance and negociate directly with healthcare provider (They almost all give you huge discount if you pay cash so they don't have to deal with the insurance backdoor deals). If you FIRE anyways, you should really consider medical tourism…

In my case, I need to get a head MRI every 6-12 months for the rest of my life, and regular oncology visits forever. I'm still going to investigate the feasibility of going without insurance; the possible ER visit is what really has me worried.

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Post by serf »

mh- wrote: post #284
1121redblackgo wrote: post #122

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This is such a curious POV for me - I'd genuinely like to hear your thoughts on this. Who owns your career growth if not.. you? (If you don't desire to grow your career, that's a viewpoint I can entirely understand.)

some people see 'career growth' as going to seminars and networking with manager types.

some people see 'career growth' as opening up a new technical manual and acquainting themselves with new stuff.

I think it's import to differentiate; networking with managers and going to industry-specific (or even company specific) seminars offers next to zero enticement for me, but I usually always have the time to read about a new language or tech.

In other words: If a growth opportunity arises, i'd rather it be personal growth.

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Post by bonsai_spool »

mattrighetti wrote: post #231
bonsai_spool wrote: post #167

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> or it would make it impossible for the most toxic (non-criminal) team members to be fired. The issue at present is that everyone is being laid off. If we accept this anti-union trope, let's t least accept that it is strictly better than the current situation where no job is safe.

In my native country unions have crippled the job market and most of my peers don’t see any benefit from them, we actually hate them for the most part. Unions are just another way to find a single solution that fits everyone and we all know how that turns out. They’re just be another bureaucratic institution for corrupt politicians. Tons of evidence out there, especially in EU.

> In my native country unions have crippled the job market

We have to think about this critically. If there were no unions, do you believe there would be more jobs for everyone? If so, what is happening to those jobs? What is happening to the demand that would support those jobs? I'm missing some of the logic here, so want to understand better.

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Post by serf »

shimman wrote: post #396
ryandrake wrote: post #305

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> I don't have to schedule my life around EMEA and APAC meetings outside of my normal hours. Oof, this one is a knife to the heart. One of the biggest drawbacks of BigTech (and many other industries) is the goddamn time zones and early / late meetings. It's subtle and creeps up on you. It starts out having to take an occasional late meeting to sync up with someone in India who isn't answering your E-mails... then it…

You realize as a worker you're allowed to demand better working conditions right?

which is why unionization and labor groups exist... because a worker demanding things does jack shit by itself.

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Post by anticorporate »

999900000999 wrote: post #402
anticorporate wrote: post #149

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I quit tech at 40. I still do cool things with technology, but now at a community-owned grocery co-op. I can't recommend leaving tech highly enough. My cortisol levels are so much lower than they used to be. I don't have to schedule my life around EMEA and APAC meetings outside of my normal hours. I only work more than 40 hours a week if I feel like it, which I sometimes do, because I actually enjoy my work now. I ma…

> but I could probably sell my belongings and live a very good life on a beach somewhere in Latin America I actually think it’s easier to cut back vs chasing some magic high networth before retirement. The average salary in Costa Rica is only 1200$ a month. Meaning if you live an average life there you might be able to retire with 240k. Assuming 6% yields per year.

Agreed. I'm quite content living a rather simple lifestyle, owning very few new things, doing almost of the maintenance on my belongings myself. The "magic number" was really more about giving myself permission than anything else.

The one thing you do have to factor for, though, is what happens if you don't keep your health. The thing that kept me in tech a little longer than I hoped to be there was a parent with long-term care needs. I could live a happy life on ~$2k a month, but it took five times that just to keep my mom alive the last few years of her life.

Living that cheaply does require adopting the lifestyle. But cooking at home or eating a casado from the local soda instead of a US-style restaurant meal sounds preferable to me anyway.

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Post by jmye »

sollewitt wrote: post #80
everdrive wrote: post #17

I don't work for Meta, but how many more years do I need to work in tech? I'm in my 40s and my kids are young. I've already set up 529s for them, and am paying for some expensive home upgrades. Maybe when that is finished and I've built up a buffer I can switch industries for the last 5-10 years of my working life. Curious if anyone here has any similar plans.

I think we need to unionize, across companies. We need to be able to block stuff like this, and to be able to demand that you can’t lay off someone to replace them with AI (bringing US workers rights up to the bar set by China). We also need to be able to hold our leadership to some kind of code of ethics. I don’t want to work for a company that makes kill bots, or can renege on climate pledges.

> I don’t want to work for a company that makes kill bots, or can renege on climate pledges.

Then don't? How is this a union issue?

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Post by grog454 »

staplung wrote: post #412

Reminds me of one of the more brilliant passages in Snow Crash , describing work in "Fed Land"... ''' Y.T's mom pulls up the new memo, checks the time, and starts reading it. The estimated reading time is 15.62 minutes. Later, when Marietta does her end-of-day statistical roundup, sitting in her private office at 9:00 P.M., she will see the name of each employee and next to it, the amount of time spent reading this m…

> occasionally paging back up to pretend to reread some earlier section

No eye tracking in this dystopia I guess.

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