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Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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How can you say this as if supporting Dario is any better. At the top level of anything there is almost no such thing as a non-asshole. None of them care genuinely about you they just want your money.

You have a point but I think you might underestimate how much it takes to be a snake like Sam Altman Not that I have first-hand knowledge but if reports about him are only half true, most tech CEOs are already saints compared to him

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Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

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Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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GPT-5.5 is the better programmer but Opus 4.8 remains the better system architect and product designer. Codex is very "miss the forest for the trees", but is much better at successfully making large changes in large codebases. Claude Code makes more mistakes, but has more taste and a better grasp on idiomatic and elegant software development. If you can afford to, I recommend juggling both.

I find arguing that a complex weighted graph has a taste is interesting. This is not a jab, but a genuine curiosity of mine.

It is more capable of writing code I find tasteful and maintainable. It is debatable to what extent it itself has taste. Its outputs just suit my taste more than Codex's do, even though Codex introduces fewer bugs.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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GPT 5.5 still invents facts rather than looking them up, and manages to come across both as condescending and sycophantic. It feels like talking to a used car salesman.

> GPT 5.5 still invents facts rather than looking them up So does Claude, what’s your point? I used it and ChatGPT this week in trying to assist troubleshooting a complex DB related issue and Claude had to apologise no less than three times in which it admitted to talking complete shit. Just one example of the kind of shit it dribbled: > I need to be upfront with you. I should not have claimed X as if I knew that for…

I've noticed that Claude has made less mistakes than in the past. I feel it checks it's own work more rigorously now, and understands it's own claims better and knows how to confirm them.

It rarely happens to me that Claude comes with clearly wrong modifications. Only with quite complicated problems with unclear variable names for example. But usually Claude asks me when something is unclear.

No experience with Codex though

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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What is this Sam’s alt account? People can spend money how they wish. SamA is a prick, so I don’t buy from his company. I don’t buy from Microsoft or Oracle either. Giving a company your money is explicitly supporting them and everything they do. Are you going to force me to buy products from people I don’t agree with?

Being a “prick” is completely inconsequential compared to the massive harm that anthropics views could create. Such as them genuinely believing they are the only ones who should control AI. What could possibly go wrong?

I think it's about whether you trust someone or not. I don't really find Altman trustable. No one should have sole control over AI, but we need to have some trust in the people that are operating it.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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This is depressing. Anthropic really is the last company we want to see leading this race, given how greedy they are. Let's not forget all of the lying and gaslighting too. The creator of OpenClaw made this I believe: https://clawd.rip Stealing peoples tokens because you use a product they don't like... That shows the morals they have. Actions speak louder than words. Disabling peoples caches because they disable tel…

From what I understand, the Pro and Max subscriptions are kind of "subsidized"; you get way more tokens than they would normally cost. But I think Anthropic wants people to use that for Claude Code only, not for things like OpenClaw. You're still free to use OpenClaw through their API subscriptions.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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Sam Altman appears to represent a significant liability for OpenAI’s success from this point forward. A big portion of the driver for Anthropic’s meteoric rise over the last six months appears to be folks recognizing “it’s that AI startup not run by Sam Altman.” Anthropic has amazing tech, but its biggest asset at the moment seems to be that “it’s not OpenAI.” Not saying that’s right or wrong, but it’s clearly a fact…

I don't know, have you ever watched a video of Dario Amodei talking? I dislike them both immensely, but Dario both seems to take glee in scaring the shit out of people as a hobby with careless statements and his voice sounds like an impression of Elizabeth Holmes (the weird fake deep voice), and nothing he's said or done makes him seem more trustworthy.

Haven't seen much, but the things I've seen from Altman directly give me uncomfortable feelings, and the things I've seen of Amodei seem reasonable, even interesting at times.
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