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Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by dpkirchner »

dgfl wrote: post #230
Sammi wrote: post #192

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Anyone who has googled just once to ask if datacenters in space make any sense, has found out they don't because they can't get rid of heat. That leaves only two kinds of people left who are still talking excitedly about datacenters in space: The uninformed and the grifters.

The existence of starlink proves that this is false. Look at most current pitches, they don’t talk about GW-class monsters anymore. There’s absolutely nothing stopping a 20-30kW satellite bus the size of starlink (or I guess up to 100kW? once starship is available - it’s all about payload fairing diameter) from hosting ~1 rack of compute and antennas. The economics may or may not make sense, we’ll have to see. There’…

How much power could we get out of the fuel required to launch a 20-100kW rack in to space, if we were to burn it on the ground?

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by whamlastxmas »

ethagknight wrote: post #472
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #77

Colossus 1 datacenter is the one using illegal power, is poisoning the air for poor communities near Memphis, and is potentially poisoning the water. It's likely the additional demand on the grid will cause massive blackouts during extreme weather events, putting residents at further risk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir... So you can put Anthropic on your list of companies that like to t…

I live in Memphis, none of this is true. What is true is that there is a concerted effort to smear anything related to xAI‘s presence in Memphis for some reason. For some facts, the colossus data center is next-door to a steel mill and city sewage treatment plant, a vacated gigawatt scale coal power plant complete with nasty Coal Ash Ponds, and a brand new combined cycle gas power plant. The area is at the far edge o…

Agreed there is a huge effort to smear as much as possible. Between parent comment being very highly voted and Wikipedia page being militantly updated and seeing these tired, wrong talking points everywhere, it's pretty obvious

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by theptip »

airspresso wrote: post #234
gpugreg wrote: post #25

> As part of this agreement, we have also expressed interest in partnering with SpaceX to develop multiple gigawatts of orbital AI compute capacity. Anthropic is either taking this space business more serious than the general public, or posting this sentence was part of the deal to get the compute.

> posting this sentence was part of the deal to get the compute This 100%

But also - anyone would be interested in purchasing orbital compute at the price Elon is quoting.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by whamlastxmas »

redox99 wrote: post #197
cedws wrote: post #111

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It was pretty obvious to me that the merger was a way of quietly shutting xAI down in a way that keeps investors happy. With it also being used as a vehicle to offload the Twitter debt to the public, he certainly has good accountants.

Why would they spend 10B and potentially 60B in cursor if they were to shut xAI down? And I'm pretty sure Elon wants to have a model of his own, even if weaker, so it's "not woke".

The idea they're shutting down xAI is outrageously dumb and to me just sounds like FUD before the IPO

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by pathartl »

ethagknight wrote: post #472
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #77

Colossus 1 datacenter is the one using illegal power, is poisoning the air for poor communities near Memphis, and is potentially poisoning the water. It's likely the additional demand on the grid will cause massive blackouts during extreme weather events, putting residents at further risk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(supercomputer)#Envir... So you can put Anthropic on your list of companies that like to t…

I live in Memphis, none of this is true. What is true is that there is a concerted effort to smear anything related to xAI‘s presence in Memphis for some reason. For some facts, the colossus data center is next-door to a steel mill and city sewage treatment plant, a vacated gigawatt scale coal power plant complete with nasty Coal Ash Ponds, and a brand new combined cycle gas power plant. The area is at the far edge o…

We have similar issues here in Wisconsin. Especially when it comes to solar and battery storage facilities. I absolutely think there needs to be more regulations carved out for data centers, just as there is for any other industrial building, but yeah the great mongering is incredible to see. Especially when the argument of "save our beautiful farmlands" is brought up. Do you even know how nasty agricultural runoff is?

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by whamlastxmas »

toephu2 wrote: post #131
aurareturn wrote: post #89

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Plot twist but makes perfect sense for both companies. Anthropic gets the compute they so desperately need to keep growing. Elon rents out compute that xAI couldn't make use of due to little demand for Grok. SpaceX gets revenue on the books for IPO. PS. I want to translate this part: We’re very intentional about where we’ll add capacity—partnering with democratic countries whose legal and regulatory frameworks suppor…

> funded by Middle East non-democratic governments What's the problem here exactly? Are you insinuating any non-democratic government is bad and evil and only democratic governments are the correct and right way to govern? sort of like: "there is only one true prophet, and it's the one I follow, and all the others are false!"

I would say ruling over people without their consent is blatantly morally wrong, yes. In the same way anything non consensual is wrong

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by sidrag22 »

alwillis wrote: post #322
sidrag22 wrote: post #87

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I've found with opus 4.6 which im still stubbornly using i can burn about 10% of the weekly within a 5 hour window with my workflow. Mentally i think about the weekly usage in terms of usage per day so about 14% per day which results in me not using that much early in the week so i can kinda "burn freely" later on. which leads me to a spot where usually on the final two days im sorta thinking about how can i expend t…

People are waisting tokens by using Opus for everything. Using Advisor [1], you can use Sonnet most of time; Sonnet can handoff work it can't handle to Opus. When Opus is done, you automatically go back to Sonnet. [1]: https://www.mindstudio.ai/blog/claude-code-advisor-strategy-...

I think the main reason that workflow has not worked for me is because im using an ide version of claude code, which means my main agent isn't a crafted agent and is "stock" sonnet or "stock" opus. I'll likely swap to the cli version soon enough and see if that remedies it (this isn't laziness on my part, i instead learned opencode workflows first because it applies more broadly, the only limitation is usage of a claude subscription within it).

So with the stock sonnet i get the chatty confidently wrong sonnet instead of a strict crafted agent. Stock Opus is a lot more reasonable, and hands off simple tasks to crafted sonnet agents with the chatty and more strict workflows, so i guess im literally doing the opposite(closer to what that old article describes).

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by fancyfredbot »

DonsDiscountGas wrote: post #469
fancyfredbot wrote: post #143

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The ethics are questionable, legal or not. Anthropic are tarnishing their image again here. Not sure how much it hurts then compared to blocking openclaw though.

I don't quite understand the business logic behind "blocking" openclaw (you can still use it at API rates) but I never saw how this was unethical. Anthropic has no ethical obligation to support other people's software

Blocking openclaw made everyone realise that what anthropic giveth, anthropic can take away.

It is similar to the xAI gas turbines in that it tarnished their image - at least amongst those naive people who saw them as a plucky startup rather than a profit seeking corporation who don't like competition.

I agree with you that the ethics are very different.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by sidrag22 »

port11 wrote: post #435
alwillis wrote: post #322

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People are waisting tokens by using Opus for everything. Using Advisor [1], you can use Sonnet most of time; Sonnet can handoff work it can't handle to Opus. When Opus is done, you automatically go back to Sonnet. [1]: https://www.mindstudio.ai/blog/claude-code-advisor-strategy-...

I rarely use Opus for planning (in the Pro plan). Spec a feature in Sonnet, hand it to Haiku, come back for review. That’s a 5-hour window gone, sometimes 2. I hit my weekly limit around day 4, with 2 maxed out windows per day (and sometimes a bit of usage at night). I completely understand why people would use Opus for everything, it’s much more thorough and effective. Sonnet as well, but on Pro it’s gonna be Haiku…

my workflow allows for about 10 windows being maxed out each week(if this threads claim is true that is now 5 windows), i always use Opus for planning and just have strict rules for delegation when its actually crafting the code.

I have a pretty nailed down .claude/ where the goal is single sources of truth, so agent md files all reference the relevant files for what domain they are working within with that domain's conventions and structure etc, i think keeping this stuff up to date is massive compounding context savings, as well as just better for performance because it keeps all agents context windows free of noise by helping them only load in what is actually needed.

I've never really messed with haiku for anything besides absolute low end repetitive tasks, its usually an agent i have crafted when i want to ask it to generate a bunch of seed data or generic questions for tests or something similar. My assumption is that it would just be terrible and even though its super cheap, it is still inevitably bringing the final results back to the better models and if thats not valuable tokens then im wasting the haiku tokens and the passoff to the better models with work that will be repeated anyway.

Re: Higher usage limits for Claude and a compute deal with SpaceX

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Post by ceejayoz »

lijok wrote: post #368
ceejayoz wrote: post #264

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_Active_Thermal_Contro... All that gets you 70kW of cooling. Radiating to vacuum isn't very efficient.

And that’s sufficient for roughly 100 unoptimized DC grade H200s. Not efficient, and it doesn’t have to be, because the cooling system has 0 opex cost. And capex clearly can be made to wor

OK, so you've got a football-sized solar and radiator array to support 100 H200s.

Why are we not building it on land again in some abandoned mall's parking lot?

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