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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Why is the focus on Minneapolis? Is it really the training ground for ICE? Edit: "Minnesota has the largest Somali population in the US, according to NBC. The community has been subject to widespread criticism from Mr Trump, who has called them "garbage"."

Also still angry about George Floyd.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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You seem to be a little sidetracked from my original point so let me reiterate it, "It's coming for everything and you'll have to draw the line somewhere." I understand you can dismiss that with "There is always a feeling of this-time-is-different", but what happens when it's truly different? Have you set a line for yourself of when it will be different or are you the frog telling everyone else that the water's not t…

Asking people where the final line is with a nuclear option is a classic question with no satisfying answer, and the classical answer is that there is no line for when the button will be pressed.

I didn't ask where the line was, I asked if it existed. "The line" is a rhetorical device meant to encourage the reader to consider whether their previously held opinions should be held in perpetuity or whether they need to be reevaluated.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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> The video clearly shows him resisting arrest and reaching for something. The video clearly shows the grey-masked (EDIT: Grey-hat, green mask) ICE Agent taking the gun and running away with it before everyone else shoots him. Also, I'm inclined to believe the "arrest" was an illegal arrest to begin with. I had a big post about how police procedure and due process is supposed to work but I know no one gives a crap ab…

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I wasn't aware that was grounds for an execution without trial, thanks for clarifying!

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Someone captured the beginning of the shooting victim’s interaction with ICE. It certainly doesn’t look as though the person is aggressive or brandishing a weapon. The DHS public statement that the victim was going to “do maximize damage and massacre law enforcement” is outrageous… https://x.com/David_J_Bier/status/2015125221938770324

ICE has regularly attacked protesters and bystanders who are simply recording, walking away and so on. Even people just driving through their neighborhood have been dragged out of their vehicles and apprehended. Citizen or otherwise doesn’t seem to matter. They aren’t professionals and operate with neither the training, nor the will to obey the law. Much of the time they seem to believe trying to bait folks into an e…

> Much of the time they seem to be trying to bait folks into an encounter

Those are kids playing to be cops. If the PS5 was affordable to people with such a low level of education they'd be playing CoD at home.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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That's the most clear murder I've ever seen, zero question about intent or anything else. After the four agents have thrown the guy to the ground and are pinning him down you can see the fed on the left pull out his gun and shoot the defenseless man in the back, and then the others jump back and join in. This is truly unreal. Even more unreal that we know nobody will get prosecuted for this murder and we'll see anoth…

But the MAGA cult will find yet another explanation that this man magically hurt the 4 ICE agents and they all ended up in a hospital somehow, or that carrying weapons with a permit is unacceptable if you vote democrat

Actually the folks at /r/conservative are more-or-less agreeing with the left-leaning majority opinion at the moment. https://archive.ph/nYEXh

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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> An I.C.U. nurse shot by federal agents was an American citizen with no criminal record, the city police chief said. A New York Times video analysis shows he was holding a phone, not a gun.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/us/minneapolis-shooting-ic...

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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You have the right to carry. Period end. Full stop. Exercising your constitutional right is not "looking for trouble."

If someone is going in to a situation where they know there are armed riot police, armed federal agents, armed and agitated protestors, and several people have already been unalived, I would call them nothing but "suicidal" to carry their own weapon into that situation. Suicidal. Even when concealed and unused. Suicidal. Of course they would be suicidal to go into that situation unarmed, as well. But carrying a weapo…

The man was a Veterans Administration ICU nurse who cared for sick veterans that was helping a woman that ICE pushed to the ground and then used chemical weapons on. There are quite a few doctors giving testimonials to this man's character at the VA.

The right will tell you that an awful/chaotic world is one where a male ICU nurses helps a woman pushed to the ground and sprayed in the face with less lethal weapons by government jackboots wearing masks.

The right will tell you that a sane/reasonable world is one where that man is extra-judicially murdered and the woman taken into government custody.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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Sounds like ICE's official word right now is that the guy had a gun. But the video clearly indicates that they all tackled him to the ground and were wrestling him maybe 4 vs 1, before they all shot him together. I'm not quite sure how a gun can have come out of this. Maybe the guy while struggling on the ground happened to reach in the direction of someone's gun while getting curbstomped, I dunno. What I'm most worr…

> What I'm most worried about is that Pam Bondi / Department of Justice refuses to investigate these or properly prosecute these cases. Law enforcement above accountability is a hallmark sign of “too far gone”.

Law enforcement is one thing but when Washington sends war-fighters into a state against the will of the state's leadership, somebody has got to be prepared to take some casualties if there is any resistance.

The greater the force and amount of armament, the worse it can end up becoming.

It wasn't good when it happened in the 19th century either.

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Watch the video from all angles. There is no way to defend your position if you watch the actual footage of what happened. If the Right does end up defending this, I don't see how they are compatible with the USA that I was taught to believe in my whole life.

Don't bother interacting with the other guy. He's a known troll that comes to every discussion about ICE and tries to put the blame on the victim, and then rants about Obama for some reason. This guy is in full support of the recent ICE murders. Moderation still hasn't banned the guy, of course.

There's no incentive for moderation to take action as long as it aligns with their "curious discussion" initiative, regardless of how disruptive they are to the forum as a whole. It's basically sealioning.

Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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I wasn't aware that was grounds for an execution without trial, thanks for clarifying!

I didn't say it was. I was responding to the specific thing I quoted,

> Also, I'm inclined to believe the "arrest" was an illegal arrest to begin with.

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