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Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by yesitcan »

g947o wrote: post #395
Rebuff5007 wrote: post #379

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I've heard a lot of such anecdotes. I'm not saying its ill-intentioned, but the skeptic in me is cautious that this is the type of reasoning which propels the anti-vax movement. I wish / hope the medical community will address stories like this before people lose trust in them entirely. How frequent are mis-diagnosis like this? How often is "user research" helping or hurting the process of getting good health outcome…

Linking this anecdote to anti-vaxxing really seems a stretch, and I would like to see the reasoning behind that. My impression is that anti-vaxxers have more issues with vaccines themselves than with doctors who recommend them

“Asking inquisitive questions and thinking for themselves? Must be an anti-vaxxer!”

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by spongebobstoes »

midldei wrote: post #79
roger_ wrote: post #35

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Yes, if it will help me and others. Again, I understand those who disagree.

But this is a 'cart before the horse' situation. What evidence do you have that providing your health information to this company will help you or anyone (other than those with financial interest in the company)? There is a very real, near definite, chance that giving your, and others', health data to this company will hurt you and others. Will you still hold this, "I personally don’t care who has access to my health…

I personally have been helped by talking to ChatGPT about my healthcare. That's the evidence. I will take concrete positive health outcomes now, over your fears of the future.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by alt227 »

Lio wrote: post #376
weatherlite wrote: post #366

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What's the difference between Googling diseases/symptoms and asking ChatGPT?

That's a good question. I guess it could be depth of discussion but in the end they both come down to trust. I guess unless you have an offline system you are at the mercy of whoever is running the services you use.

Googling and reading yourself allows you to assess and compare sources, and apply critical thinking and reasoning specific to yourself and your own condition. Using AI takes all this control away from you and trusts a machine to do the reasoning and assessing, which may be based on huge amounts of data which differ from yourself.

Googling allows you to choose the sources you trust, AI forces you to trust it as a source.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by 542354234235 »

utopiah wrote: post #434
wookmaster wrote: post #428

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If you keep hearing anecdotes at what point is it statistically important ? IBM 15 years ago was selling a story about a search engine they created specifically for the medical field(they had it on jeopardy) where doctors spent 10 years before they figured this poor patients issue. They plugged the original doctors notes into it and the 4th result was the issue they took a decade to figure out. Memorizing dozens of m…

> If you keep hearing anecdotes at what point is it statistically important ? Fair question but one has to keep in mind about ALL the other situations we do NOT hear about, namely all the failed attempts that did take time from professionals. It doesn't the successful attempts are not justified, solely that a LOT of positive anecdotes might give the wrong impressions that they are not radically most negative ones tha…

I hear about people winning the lottery all the time. There were two $100m+ winners just this week. The anecdotes just keep piling up! That doesn't mean the lottery is a valid investment tool. People just do not understand how statistically insignificant anecdotes are in a sufficiently large dataset. Just for the US population, a 1 in a million chance of something happening to a person should happen enough to be reported on a new person every weekday of the year.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by alt227 »

uyzstvqs wrote: post #322
mangamadaiyan wrote: post #258

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Something to think about: perhaps the problem is with the duration of the appointment, and the difficulty of getting one in the first place? Elsewhere in the world, doctors can and do spend more than 12 minutes figuring out what's wrong with their patients. It's the healthcare system that's broken, and it _can_ be fixed without resorting to chatgpt. That it won't is the reality, though

GP sessions being around 20 minutes is pretty standard in North American and European countries. You can't have standard hour-long GP sessions, as it'd become impossible to make a timely appointment, no matter which system.

Ever wonder why famous people and celbrities always seem so healthy? They have unfettered access to well paid doctors. People with lots of money can spend literal days with GPs, constantly trying and testing things based on feedback loops with the same doctor at the same time.

When people are forced to have a consultation, diagnosis, and treatment in 20 minutes, things are rushed and missed. Amazing things happen when trained doctors can spend unlimited time with a patient.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by undeveloper »

Aurornis wrote: post #477
yurishimo wrote: post #335

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Do you think the majority of those people are lying or do you think it's possible that our pursuit of algorithmic consumption is actually rewiring our neural pathways into something that looks/behaves more like ADHD? Personally, I'm on the fence. I suspect that I've always had a bit of that, but anecdotally, it does seem to have gotten worse in the past decade, but perhaps it's just a symptom of old age (31 hehehe).

> Do you think the majority of those people are lying I don’t think they’re lying, but it is very clear that ADHD has entered the common vernacular and is now used as a generic term like OCD. People will say “I’m OCD about…” as a way of saying they like to be organized or that they care about some detail. Now it’s common to say “My ADHD made me…” to refer to getting distracted or following an impulse. > or do you thi…

> Now it’s common to say “My ADHD made me…” to refer to getting distracted or following an impulse.

this is an older thing than "I'm OCD when ..."

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by [deleted] »

intended wrote: post #220
mountainriver wrote: post #144

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Doctors are wrong all the time as well. There are quite a few studies on this. I would in no way trust a doctor over ChatGPT at this point. At least with ChatGPT I can ask it to cite the sources proving its conclusions. Then I can verify them. I can’t do that with a doctor it’s all “trust me bro”

You can sue doctors for malpractice.

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Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by jtbayly »

glenstein wrote: post #480
jtbayly wrote: post #431

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I think the ultimate answer is that people must take responsibility for their own health and that of their children and loved ones. That includes research and double-checking your doctors. True, the result is that a good number of people will be convinced they have something (eg. autism) that they don't. But the anecdotes are piled up into giant mountains at this point. A good number of people in my family have had a…

>But the anecdotes are piled up into giant mountains at this point This is disorganized thinking. Anecdotes about what? Does my uncle having an argument with his doctor over needing more painkillers, combine with an anecdote about my sister disagreeing with a midwife over how big her baby would be, combined with my friend outliving their stage 4 cancer prognosis all add up to "therefore I'm going to disregard nutriti…

You can tell me that I'm as crazy as people who believe they've been abducted, but I'm still going to be my own health advocate. :)

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by undeveloper »

kachapopopow wrote: post #383
Bayko wrote: post #363

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I have what you would call metric shittons of ADHD. Medically diagnosed. Was kicked outta university for failing grades and all. Pills saved me. If you think you have it, the best thing you can do for yourself is at least get a diagnosis done. In b4 people come in and chime it can be faked. Yes the symptoms can be faked. But why would you if you really want to know what is wrong with you if any? (Hoping you aren't a…

I really hope this doesn't get lost in the sea of comments and don't feel pressured to answer any of them but: what would you recommend if one is against the idea of medication in general for neurological issues that aren't deterental to ones life? do you feel the difference between being medicated and (strong?) coffee? have you felt the effects weaken over time? if you did drink coffee, have you noticed a difference…

I take ritalin as needed, 20-30mg a day. A black coffee will usually make me just a little sleepier, if anything at all. a couple more will do the same. Ritalin can make me sleepy if I'm already deeply tired, but after ~30min will actually allow me to partially focus on off days, and be able to get more work done on normal days. I may not need it every day.

> is making life easier with medication worth the cost over just dealing with it by naturally by adapting to it over time (if even possible in your case)?

I am now 20, admittedly "early" in my career. Through high school and the first 2 years of university I have banged my head against ADHD and tried to just "power through it" or adapt. Medication isn't a magic bullet, but it is clear to me at least now that I am at least able to rely on it as a crutch in order to improve myself and my lifestyle to deal with what is at least for me, truly a disability. Maybe one day I won't need it, but in the mean time I see no reason why attempt #3289 will work for real this time to turn around my life.

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