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Post by kortilla »

lurking_swe wrote: post #479
inetknght wrote: post #403

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> Imo you don't fire people for generating bad ideas, that just creates a culture of not thinking outside the box. No, you fire people for generating ideas that are shady and against your own policies.

disagree. brainstorming should never be seen as a negative. trying to _promote_ and _act_ on shady ideas is the problem.

“What if we just charge a bunch of hidden recurring fees?”

Some ideas are so bad they indicate that you aren’t aligned with the goals of the company

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Post by mpalmer »

surgical_fire wrote: post #358
hshshshshsh wrote: post #56

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Yeah. One thing I learned working at a Big company is that companies are full of parasites who are there to get their promotion or salary increase and don't give a cat shit about users or mission or values. Honestly it sucked any joy out of my life but I am stuck here because of visa.

You described any regular workplace. You are not supposed to find joy in work. Work is something that you do so you can afford to find joy elsewhere.

You're not supposed to do anything.

Why on earth would you discourage someone from finding joy in their work? It's possible.

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Post by wat10000 »

steveBK123 wrote: post #459
carlosjobim wrote: post #439

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Let's hope eink or any other type of outdoors usable display. That's a new market of hundreds of millions of devices they can sell.

I’ve dabbled in a bunch of those. Kindle. Remarkable. Daylight. The problem is it’s always a great 3rd or 4th device. Not sure there’s a high margin high volume demand for it.

I think regular LCD/OLED displays will become fully daylight capable before these specialized displays become high volume. We’re almost there today. My phone and laptop are usable outside in most conditions, but not great in direct sunlight. It’s not really the right technology for that environment, but the R&D money being poured into it is immense.

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Post by Tepix »

BurningFrog wrote: post #384
hopelite wrote: post #255

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I would say it’s simpler than that. Between Wall Street demanding “growth” and the executives’ stock options being tied to meeting those numbers, they always pull out any and all stops to push “growth”. As others have implied, with people like Jobs and others gone, there is also no cultural resistance based on core values that created Apple to push back on shameless debasement. It is also what is happening all over t…

Growth is awesome. We're incredibly fortunate to live in this high growth era! What Apple may be guilty of here is focusing on short term growth at the expense of the long term. If you make an extra buck today, at the expense of losing user loyalty, that's not what any shareholder wants. This could be a case of short term growth being rewarded inside the company. It could also be any number of other reasons.

Maybe. But future generations (like yours kids) will have to pay dearly for our „growth at all cost“ mentality that uses up limited resources disproportionately and unsustainably.

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Post by thamer »

manchmalscott wrote: post #245
nyc_pizzadev wrote: post #157

I got this ad, and ya, I was truly bewildered to get such an ad and then shocked that it came from my Wallet. I then spent the next hour searching how to disable this new marketing stream and it looks like nothing can be done. Anyway, glad to see I’m not alone here.

They have added an option to disable marketing messages in the wallet app..... in the new iOS 26 beta. which uh, really makes it look like they were not planning on doing this just this once.

This is what it looks like, the switch is for "Offers & Promotions": https://i.imgur.com/wodOoBo.jpeg

From the Wallet app, tap on "…" at the top right, then "notifications".

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Post by ugh123 »

em500 wrote: post #129

Apple Wallet is in the App store, and the F1 ad debacle directly violates App Store guidelines https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ ) > 4.5.4 Push Notifications must not be required for the app to function, and should not be used to send sensitive personal or confidential information. Push Notifications should not be used for promotions or direct marketing purposes unless customers have explicitly…

>unless customers have explicitly opted in to receive them via consent language displayed in your app’s UI

Have we not already agreed to this in one of the million TOS prompts that Apple shows us? sad

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Post by Spooky23 »

sillyfluke wrote: post #370
Spooky23 wrote: post #220

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You’re an outlier. Apple has arguably the best lifecycle in the personal computing space in all of its categories. They support most devices for 5-7 years, and have a strong incentive to do so as there is a pipeline of used devices into developing markets and their branding and segmentation means their devices have strong resale value. With your old android, you’re either running an open source stack of some sort, wh…

>They support most devices for 5-7 years You're not responding to the case I'm specifically talking about. As new major iOS or Android releases have features I could care less about, I primarily only care about critical security releases for the OS I have. Why is it thatI have to install a new OS just to get a updated version of Safari? Whereas I seem to be able to download usable browsers on older Android phones (wi…

Because it doesn’t make sense with their business model.

My company had some ancient capital equipment that required windows 2000. We had a contract that supported them up until a few years ago. That contract costed a fortune, but made perfect sense for the use case. Nobody is going to pay to keep an iPhone 4 updated.

Note my comment is that you’re an outlier. That doesn’t mean that your needs are flawed, wrong or anything else. It’s just not consistent with the market’s need and represents an addressable market too small for Apple.

Sometimes companies do serve niche markets by rolling them together. Sonim, for example, made a fully waterproof Android phone that was rugged and marketed to public safety and construction customers. It also solved a problem for small customers like mine who had environments where traditional smartphones could trigger an explosion.

I don’t want a phone with design characteristics the lets it operate in a grain elevator. Likewise, I have no desire to operate a phone for many years, and the market, rightly or wrongly, agrees with me.

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Post by op00to »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #321
op00to wrote: post #249

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This is the first time in a long time I’m not interested in replacing my phone after a year.

which when you look at your device, it's cost and what you use it for, should not be all that remarkable of a statement. I mean, what if you replaced "phone" with car, house or partner?

I bet id buy a new car more frequently if cars were first invented!

As it is, I bought my car new and is 20 years old in great condition. Partner … I mean, who wouldn’t want to trade in for a new model if it weren’t for the social concerns? (I kiiiid I kiiid)

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Post by surgical_fire »

mpalmer wrote: post #482
surgical_fire wrote: post #358

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You described any regular workplace. You are not supposed to find joy in work. Work is something that you do so you can afford to find joy elsewhere.

You're not supposed to do anything. Why on earth would you discourage someone from finding joy in their work? It's possible.

> Why on earth would you discourage someone from finding joy in their work?

For the same reason I discourage people believing in Santa Claus or in the Easter Bunny

Finding joy in their work is a cute idea. But it is cute and false, believing in it will lead to nothing but frustration and lower income.

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