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Re: How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike shoes in Asia?

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Post by rassimmoc »

matt-p wrote: post #424
peterfirefly wrote: post #397

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We don't hate the UK. We are just waiting (impatiently) for you to come to your senses.

So would we be able to get the exact same deal we had? We are under the impression the answer is no, as whenever we try and negotiate away stuff that's in neither of our interests it gets rejected. Take this Eitas Visa for example, this is literally just sowing resentment towards the EU in the UK. It benefits nobody and is totally insane, it's just making people hate the EU. Same with not being able to use the digita…

>At the moment we're trying to give security backing for Ukraine and you're asking us to give up our fishing rights for the honour of helping secure Europe.

You are not trying to secure Europe, you are trying to sell something to Europe. We would rather build capacity to make whatever you want to sell us ourselfs.

I agree we should work closely together, more so after US started dancing naked around burning brides. But everyone is looking into how to secure themselfs, without depending on 3rd party, and from EU's perspective UK is on the outside (even if not as crazy as US has become).

Re: How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike shoes in Asia?

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Post by ericmay »

nomel wrote: post #463
ericmay wrote: post #432

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IQ isn't much of a proxy for anything, especially in this context.

It's especially related in this context, which is engineering success. IQ is directly related to academic achievement in STEM, which is directly related to engineering career success.

Well we're not talking about career success, we were talking about comparisons of nation states. Having an IQ advantage there might prove marginally more helpful, but it's not really that important. I'd argue physical size and strength of a people are even more important than IQ when we're looking at across the board averages. Plus you have things like, idk, access to raw materials, geographic advantages, cultural advantages or disadvantages, systemic advantages or disadvantages including strong or weak institutions, training programs, etc. In fact, if you wanted to do a comparison between America and China you'd really have a lot better things to look at to show China as better than IQ.

With respect to "career success" you can have 50 million people in your country with IQs >140 and there's still a limited market to sell to. There are diminishing returns on capacity - you can have business analysts or call center folks with the IQ of Einstein and they'll be limited by the systems they are placed in.

The other side of this is that just because you are smart doesn't mean you are capable of doing well in the real world. Recall how there are a lot of "dumb rich people" and "smart poor people".

Re: How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike shoes in Asia?

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Post by iamacyborg »

stevage wrote: post #473
Symbiote wrote: post #395

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It's priced in a similar way to Lego.

I don't find Lego especially expensive. And Lego is way more difficult to manufacture, has very exacting functional requirements and extremely good QA.

I don’t know a great deal about injection moulding but I’d assume GW kits are more detailed than lego, having seen some sprues.

The stuff they’re putting out these days is really quite good.

Re: How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike shoes in Asia?

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Post by matt-p »

Symbiote wrote: post #415
matt-p wrote: post #296

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Pretty sure you could engineer France leaving the EU by just tweaking fishing quotas, farming subsidy, naming on sparkling wine or removing (as you mention) strasbourg. They will start a riot and then when you don't give in, they'll be gone. I'm not saying it's what happened to the UK, but we asked for what we needed, got turned down and then left.

What did the UK ask of the EU before Brexit? All I remember was Cameron asking to expel jobless immigrants, which confused the EU as Britain was already allowed to do that.

I think it was a ban on European migrants from sending benefits and particularly child benefit (some money you get from the state if you have kids) back to thier home country or something like that.

I remember Poland stopped us from getting it (supposedly).

The french didn't want us to exempt from financial regulation that was primarily targeted at the euro even though we use the pound.

Various nonsense, that people at the time felt strongly about (keeping the pound, not giving benefits and a council house to people as soon as they arrived, or some such exaggeration)

Re: How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike shoes in Asia?

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Post by bunderbunder »

tim333 wrote: post #262
bunderbunder wrote: post #212

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But still, the money that's going straight into working class people's pockets is probably better for the UK in the long run. Don't worry, it will get taxed over and over and over and over again as they pay each other for things. Velocity is one of those critically important concepts that often gets left out of these discussions because it's hard to understand if you haven't formally studied economics because it's al…

There are quite a lot of people who make money from Harry Potter apart from JKR. People running cinemas, bookshops, making the movies, running the studio tour and so on.

Right.

And the more of that that happens, the better for the economy overall. The less of that that happens - implying more of it ends up in JKR's proverbial dragon hoard, not doing much good beyond being an impressive pile of wealth for the dragon to sleep on top of - the less good for the economy overall.

Re: How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike shoes in Asia?

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Post by Symbiote »

matt-p wrote: post #424
peterfirefly wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't hate the UK. We are just waiting (impatiently) for you to come to your senses.

So would we be able to get the exact same deal we had? We are under the impression the answer is no, as whenever we try and negotiate away stuff that's in neither of our interests it gets rejected. Take this Eitas Visa for example, this is literally just sowing resentment towards the EU in the UK. It benefits nobody and is totally insane, it's just making people hate the EU. Same with not being able to use the digita…

You are perhaps unaware that since last week, Britain has required EU citizens to go through an e-visa process.

The offer from the EU for a youth exchange program was rejected by the UK.

The fish thing looks like anti-EU nonsense. The anonymous source "hinted", whereas the people speaking on the record denied it.

Starmer ruled out joining the customs union, so blame him for the tool import paperwork.

> but the thing is that only a minority voted for Brexit,

So with such a failure of democracy, it's no wonder that the EU would require changes to the voting system (for example) before Britain can rejoin.

The EU doesn't want a half-in half-out Britain. It had that for decades.

Re: How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike shoes in Asia?

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Post by matt-p »

hkt wrote: post #475
matt-p wrote: post #310

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I think Germany is a bit of a special case due to what happened after the war, I think a more objective comparison might be say France.

German engineering etc was famously rather good before the war too. The Ruhr valley is part of the reason for this: energy sources (coal) and minerals (iron, copper, etc) very close together. It was the ideal setting for an industrial awakening. Also, even after the marshall plan, Germany kept its existing advantages in industry in large part simply by actually encouraging them to exist. The UK has no industrial poli…

It wasn't a criticism of Germany at all, just that I think alot happened there that was special politically with the east and west, support for reunified Germany was massive, it's just therefore a bit hard to say what would of happened if after the war it was lumped with huge debt and ignored.

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Post by strich »

slt2021 wrote: post #457
hemabe wrote: post #426

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China could not only be ‘equal’ but ‘better’ than the USA - we should get used to the idea. China has an average IQ of 104 out of 1.4 billion people, while the USA has an IQ of 97. In purely statistical terms, this means that the USA has around 700,000 people with an IQ >= 140. China has 11,480,000 people with this IQ. This human capital will make the difference.

due to immigration, USA draws talent from global population of 8.2 billion, so the top limit of people with IQ>140 that can live in USA should be drawn from 8.2 billion, not 340 mln

Not anymore it shouldn't.

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Post by sterlind »

bamboozled wrote: post #445
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #441

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The US was going down the "let dominate IP/technology" angle for awhile, but we only accomplished it with imported labor (look at any SWE shop). China is obviously developing the talent to do the same, and they are rapidly automating manufacture work as they approach a demographic cliff. They are basically making all the right investments for the future while we try to go back to the 1950s. It is extremely frustratin…

Back to coal mines.

it really seems like there's a push to de-skill Americans. like Bessent's remark that the laid-off civil servants could become factory workers as we bring back domestic manufacturing, and the recent corporate push towards vibe coding and integrating AI everywhere, and the purge of seasonal and unskilled migrant workers while keeping the H1B program.

it almost seems like we're trying to clear immigrants out of the chicken plants to make room for laid-off graphic designers.

Re: How much do you think it costs to make a pair of Nike shoes in Asia?

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Post by callamdelaney »

philjohn wrote: post #365
callamdelaney wrote: post #288

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Except since no parliament can bind a future parliament it won't be worth the paper it's written on. The loudest voices calling for a scrap are exactly the people you DON'T want deciding what human rights you'll be "allowed". And incitement to violence is, and always should be, unprotected speech - your silly "two tier kier" is informing me greatly that you're on the "they locked them up for hurty words!" bandwagon.

Weird, the bill of rights act of 1689 is still in force.

It’s literally the policy of this country to sentence white men to harsher custodial sentences with more chance of a custodial sentence than any other group, simply for the crime of being a white man. Are these the sorts of people you think should decide our rights?

If the government would do what people have been voting for for decades and end mass immigration and take real action on this ridiculous and purposeful misuse of the human rights act, then nobody would want to redact it.

But they won’t.

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