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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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>unlike phones where just about all of them have just about all the features I knew my preferences were niche, but I didn't think they were that niche. There hasn't been a phone with even half my ideal feature list (that works in the US) in probably close to a decade, and even if I abandon my more niche "nice to haves", there are essentially no new phones, and that's even before I add in that I'd really like it to be…

Would you mind sharing what those features are? About the only things I can think of that some phones used to have, but now largely don't, is removable battery, IR blaster, headphone jack, or keyboard. I can understand missing those features, even though they don't particularly matter to me.

I'm surprised you mentioned IR blaster, which is on my list, but I consider the second most niche one after FM tuner, which my current phone actually does have. Here's my list from what I consider most reasonable to most niche:

Small size. I'm a 6'2" male, so my hands are probably pretty well above the population average. Maybe it's because I'm a lefty, but I hate how big phones have gotten. It makes one hand use almost impossible, and if it's that hard for me, I have to assume that most people have just given up on even trying. I'd really prefer a sub 5.5" phone screen (part of me wants to say even smaller, but it's been so long since I've used a phone that small, that I don't even know anymore what my ideal size/lower limit is).

Headphone jack. Relatively self explanatory, imo.

No camera cutout. I hate them. I'd literally rather give up the screen real estate and have a bigger top bezel (although, see my point 1, I obviously value screen size less than most consumers). Luckily in Android you can just turn off the screen around the cutout in developer options, but I'd prefer to just not have the screen there. At least on my current phone, it still wastes battery (this might be a non-issue on OLED screens) and will register touches, preventing proper touch recognition elsewhere (this is related to the difficulty of single handed use, would probably be mitigated on a smaller phone)

SD card slot. Maybe the easiest of this list to actually still find? It seems like a decent number of phones these days have a spot for it in in the SIM card tray. I've heard that the reason companies don't include it is that a lot of SD cards are trash and wear out pretty quickly. This could lead to consumers losing data and being mad at the phone manufacturer. In my opinion, this is understandable, but still a bad reason.

IR Blaster/FM Tuner. I consider these two together. They are both pretty niche, and are "nice to haves". Mostly because I want my phone to be as much of a general purpose communications device as possible. The times when these are helpful are infrequent, but in those rare times, extremely nice to have.

Replaceable battery actually isn't on my list, mostly because I consider it part and parcel of "repairability", which (maybe nonsensically) seems like a different category. And, for me personally, battery degradation actually hasn't been a problem for phones. The two biggest things I would want to be able to repair are charging ports (this would be mitigated with wireless charging) and screen repair. These are, for me at least, the two most likely parts to break/wear out, and in my opinion they should both be cheap and easy to repair. Of course, if it was easy to do those two, you'd get battery replacement almost by default, and I certainly wouldn't be mad about easier to swap batteries.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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A newbie to smartwatches question : How are RePebbleOS watches when it comes to privacy? Do they offer complete offline, manual data download/sync experience or do they require some type of Google or Apple crapware to work? I am mainly considering buying one to track my heart rate, but I don't want my data to leave my watch unless I copy it myself. Any budget friendly recommendations?

Vague question, as privacy means different things to different people, but its very hackable, so as long as you're running Android you should be able to make it work how you want. By default it uses the Pebble App for sync. You can decide whether that meets your privacy needs or you want a custom app. Someone has probably shared how to do what you want. See the other trending HN post for Apple compatibility (TL;DR it…

Thanks. Sorry if it was vague. Basically my first preference would be to not have any need to connect to a mobile phone (so no android or apple). And if that is not possible it is preferable to connect via de-googled Android. I guess I need to find out whether Pebble App sync works on GrapheneOS, and whether Pebble App sync requires internet/data permission - just trying to make sure the data doesn't leave my phone.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I don't understand how the watches help with glucose levels. The specs mention step, sleep and heart rate tracking. What am I missing? (Vested interest as a diabetic myself.)

Diabetics have a sensor on their bodies that speaks Bluetooth. It talks to their phones (running eg. xDrip). The phone then communicates this to the watch. My wife is a diabetic and this kind of stuff, while it seems minimal, makes a big difference for her quality of life.

So it is just a better way of accessing information collected from another device?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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As one of the watch enthusiasts with a collection of several dozen straps, it's refreshing to see the watches including quick-release straps right out of the box. That makes quick-swapping to our NATO straps easy peasy!

There's something genuinely heartwarming about seeing Eric Migicovsky remain true to his vision, finally delivering the product I dreamed of but couldn't afford a decade ago, after all.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I know this is going to sound weird, but I'd really love a stylish smartwatch without any wireless comms of any kind on board. And I think a lot of people living in and around Arlington, VA would as well.

how would it be "smart" without some kind of way to get data from your phone (or other wireless data source)? are you imagining a wired tether and periodic sync, like Palm Pilots?

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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What's with all the recent posts about Pebble OS and Pebble watches? Seems like there have been several in the last couple of days. Definitely doesn't feel organic.

Google released PebbleOS as open source in January and one of the Pebble founders started an effort to produce a pair of watches using the open source software. This is his website.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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MSRP of 3x COGS is a pretty common rule of thumb for hardware. Have to leave room for distribution, software, R&D, returns, SG&A, etc. End of the day, it's probably still only 30-40% gross margin -- less than half of a good SaaS company. Hardware is (indeed!) hard.

But then how could you call that 100 profit in any way? If you made at most like 30-50?

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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Are there headphones that can track same vitals (movement, heart rate and sleep)?

I can’t stand wearing watches and adding another fucking screen to keep track of is bonkers in 2025.

It’s kinda crazy apple haven’t added tracking in airpods yet - there are at least 2x more airpods sold.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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I did a one week test drive of Apple Watch a year and a half ago and I could barely get a day out of it. That alone was a deal breaker for me.

I get about 2 days from my Ultra 1.

The battery on the Ultras is about double the regular series watch batteries, so that tracks. My point was that I was going to struggle with having a device that I couldn't rely on to make it through a full day including the evening— having to take it off for a charging session in the afternoon would be too disruptive for the overall package to be worth it to me.
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