The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

Post by notpushkin » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 5:27 AM UTC

3vidence wrote: post #464

hysan wrote: post #447

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I’m a bit confused by this comment. I didn’t mention any of those and didn’t callout any specific business models for browsers. Just that Chrome would need to figure out how to monetize itself like how other browsers are trying to do. Diving into the different business models that other browsers are trying is a very different conversation that needs nuance. For example, how would Brave and Orion fit into your remark?

Brave is built on chromium and thus is being subsidized by Google https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser) I think they used to have their own engine but like everyone else found it unprofitable to maintain.

Post by chairhairair » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 5:50 AM UTC

MR4D wrote: post #397

kweingar wrote: post #320

Here's something I don't understand. If you want to switch your search engine for Safari on iOS, you open Settings, tap Safari, tap Search Engine, and tap your preferred search engine. Not many users do this, and the conclusion is that the default has an unfair advantage. If you want to make Chrome your desktop browser, you open the default browser, search for Chrome, click the correct result, download the installer,…

That’s not the issue. The problem is that Google owns both sides of the internet - the browser on your computer and the search engine to find everything. As a result, they control your perception of the internet. If a site doesn’t work, you as the user thinks the site doesn’t work. You don’t think oh, my browser is broken. Also, if you don’t find a site on Google the. To you, it doesn’t exist. As a result, you have t…

Post by ivraatiems » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 5:51 AM UTC

sneak wrote: post #390

ivraatiems wrote: post #322

It says something about how universally despised Google and other tech giants are that two presidential administrations who are so acrimonious and diametrically opposed that they have spent much of their time destroying everything the previous one did agree on it. I genuinely can't think of anyone, of any political stripe, outside of Google and its employees and investors, who thinks Google should have the power it h…

Destroying Google’s ability to develop Chrome means that the web dies faster than it already is. Apple would prefer everyone use native apps, they run an app store. Most companies prefer apps, you can’t modify or inspect them or easily block ads within them. Apps can trap users inside embedded browsers with app-based surveillance, like when you click profile links in Instagram or TikTok. The world without a free high…

Post by Izkata » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 5:53 AM UTC

dismalaf wrote: post #466

tester756 wrote: post #331

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On Android Chrome is preinstalled and cannot be uninstalled

Which ones? Samsung internet is the default for Samsung devices (which constitute the majority of Android devices in the west) and most (all?) of the Chinese OEMs have their own browser... The only Android devices I've ever had where the default is Chrome are Pixel devices...

Post by adastra22 » Sun, Mar 09, 2025, 6:01 AM UTC

kweingar wrote: post #320

Here's something I don't understand. If you want to switch your search engine for Safari on iOS, you open Settings, tap Safari, tap Search Engine, and tap your preferred search engine. Not many users do this, and the conclusion is that the default has an unfair advantage. If you want to make Chrome your desktop browser, you open the default browser, search for Chrome, click the correct result, download the installer,…