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"FAA Got Rid of Its Leader Before D.C. Plane Crash—Thanks to Elon Musk":

* https://newrepublic.com/post/190942/faa-no-leader-dc-plane-c...

"FAA Administrator Quit on Jan. 20 After Elon Musk Told Him to Resign":

* https://www.thedailybeast.com/faa-chief-michael-whitaker-qui...

"The FAA is facing a major crisis without a leader because Elon Musk pushed him out*

* https://www.theverge.com/news/603113/faa-chief-musk-dc-plane...

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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Presumably because Trump just offered an 8month severance package to all fed workers. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvqe3le3z4o > US President Donald Trump has offered federal workers the option to resign and receive pay for eight months, in a major effort to shrink and reform the US government.

It's not even a buyout. They have to work for those 8 months; it's not a severance package.

There's also no evidence they have the money to pay if the offers were in good faith. Combined with the fact the two people who came up with the idea have a history of deciding not to pay and instead go to the courts to avoid paying

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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In any event, unless the weather was IMC, where neither aircraft can see because of weather/cloud, which I'm deducing is not the case if they were allowed to maintain visual separation, the ultimate responsibility for maintaining separation is with the pilot(s) .. But as I posted, we should not have this happen anywhere in the United States in 2025 & much less the nation's capital. Hopefully DOT and FAA get to work,…

but I have a feeling that will be the end of DCA's usefull life as a major passenger airport. Wait, what? I was with you until this last sentence. You think DCA will be spun down because an accident occurred there? This seems wild - what am I missing here?

I only have a passing interest in this, but DCA's approach is tricky, the airspace is complex and restricted, and then you mix in military pilots doing VIP helicopter training runs across the approach. The procedures make it safe-ish, but it's riskier than other major airports.

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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I just listened to the ATC recording from immediately before the collision. ATC instructs the helicopter to pass behind the CRJ. I’m fairly certain a few minutes before that, ATC instructed the helicopter to maintain visual separation, which is common. They typically ask, “do you have the aircraft in sight” and if you respond in the affirmative they rely on you to maintain safe distance. I should mention that in the…

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Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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Where did that come from? There are some things in life that don't revolve around identity politics, and I'd venture to say, ATC is one of them.

On "Truth Social" last night, Donald Trump was explicitly questioning the actions of the ATC. And during this morning's press briefing, he blamed "the crash on Barack Obama, Joe Biden, former Transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg, DEI and people with disabilities." I'm waiting for the transcript on that one.

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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I was a controller at DCA for 8 years and this is a normal operation with Helicopters using the Helicopter routes. The problem I see is the controller asked the Helicopter if they had the CRJ in sight, but he never said WHERE HE WAS OR WHAT HE WAS DOING! The controller should have told the Helicopter that the CRJ was circling to RWY 33. The helicopter said he had him in sight, but he really had the Jet in sight that…

If you're quoting someone else, please say so at the top of the comment instead leading with "I was a controller" and burying the attribution at the end of a paragraph.

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Regulations are written in blood, which is why it's such a disservice to indiscriminately tear it all down. We will re-learn the same lessons and people will pay for those lessons with their lives.

Some regulations are written and blood but some regulations are written to cover someone's ass and the two should not be treated equally. We shouldn't give equal respect to the Federal Aviation Regulations and to OPM's Qualification Standards for Federal Jobs; doing so deligitamizes the importance of the former.

The latter is how you get a workforce qualified to write the former, rather than a bunch of hacks who know nothing about aviation safety.

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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"FAA Got Rid of Its Leader Before D.C. Plane Crash—Thanks to Elon Musk": * https://newrepublic.com/post/190942/faa-no-leader-dc-plane-c... "FAA Administrator Quit on Jan. 20 After Elon Musk Told Him to Resign": * https://www.thedailybeast.com/faa-chief-michael-whitaker-qui... "The FAA is facing a major crisis without a leader because Elon Musk pushed him out* * https://www.theverge.com/news/603113/faa-chief-musk-dc-p…

If we see more accidents a year from now, you have a point. The most you can really blame on leadership changes right now is stress from worrying about your next paycheck. Even then, this looks like a military pilot screwed up doing a routine training exercise.

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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Their candidate success rate would probably be higher if they weren’t rejecting the vast majority of their most-qualified applicants for reasons that are clearly pretextual: https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/the-faas-hiring-scandal-...

It's kind of odd that blog post doesn't mention that the biographical assessment it's talking about was only used between 2014 and 2018.

It says "In 2016, Congress passed Public Law 114-190, which among other things banned the use of biographical assessments as a first-line hiring tool for air traffic controllers."
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