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hmmm. maybe? What specifically is the actual conspiracy around "Hunter Bidens laptop"? I am not trying to be dense. I just don't understand I think where the conspiracy is.
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First people sickened by Covid-19 were scientists at WIV: US government sources
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#482I don't trust this article at all . > Sources within the US government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. All were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus. > It is unclear who in the U.S. government had access to the intelligence about the sick WIV workers, how long they had it, and why it was not shared with the pub…
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His reporting on the twitter files has been great, the msnbc attack interview isn't really revealing anything. It's just hackery.
So great and compelling that Musk shadowbanned them on Twitter after the two got in a little squabble. Yeah...
Kind of underscores Taibbi's credibility that he'll pick a fight with Musk and be shadowbanned though, huh?
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The President of the United States was claiming that COVID was engineered in China as early as May 2020. I don't know how someone can claim they weren't allowed to talk about it.
Possibly because over a hundred million links were repressed by Twitter and Facebook for this. Or because people who spoke up about received every kind of pushback - firing, demotion, smears, even death threats. That Trump posed it as a likelihood means nothing in comparison to millions of posts getting flagged, shadowbanned, repressed and completely wiped. You get that, right?
The theory (and even wilder ones, like COVID being a bioweapon) were reported all through 2020 on Fox News and other media sources. It wasn't a silent theory. There were a lot of crazier theories about China manufacturing COVID as a bioweapon, which got lumped into the "Lab Leak" bucket.
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Except, of course, we don't know who they were, let alone whether they were otherwise healthy or whether they were young adults. Whether somebody is confident in your guesses is up to them I guess.
According to US government sources, they were Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. Ben Hu was the researcher who lead “gain-of-function” research on SARS-like coronaviruses at WIV.
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The claim that the funding doesn't come from a "billionaire owned outlet" doesn't really track if you look at the investors[0] in Substack. I count at least one billionaire-run fund in that list. There was also an incident a couple months ago where Elon Musk accused Taibbi of working for Substack, which he denied, but in leaked texts says they "originally hired" him[1], which I find confusing. [0] https://www.crunchb…
> if you look at the investors[0] in Substack FFS this is like claiming you are funded by BoA or JPM if your salary is deposited there. They are literally paid by their subscribers, Substack is a mere payment & publication tool. Substack do not pay them. Moreover w.r.t. Taibbi he has picked fights with his employers and quit at the first hint of them trying to influence his work. His credibility on that front is actu…
"FFS", then I'm going to make the argument that mainstream media is funded by subscribers too! Substack isn't much different from a newspaper.
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> if you look at the investors[0] in Substack FFS this is like claiming you are funded by BoA or JPM if your salary is deposited there. They are literally paid by their subscribers, Substack is a mere payment & publication tool. Substack do not pay them. Moreover w.r.t. Taibbi he has picked fights with his employers and quit at the first hint of them trying to influence his work. His credibility on that front is actu…
"FFS", then I'm going to make the argument that mainstream media is funded by subscribers too! Substack isn't much different from a newspaper.
Mainstream media is funded by advertisers, more than (or, in the case of TV/radio abd some others, instead of) subscribers.
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> Taibbi is clearly a partisan hack that only attacks one side, ever. You should probably expand your reading to his articles in Rolling Stone, particularly those from 4-5 years ago. You would not say “ever” if you did that. But…for a writer that admittedly leans left in his politics, he is willing to call out that side when a story leads there. He is much like Glenn Greenwald in that respect. Both he and Glenn get a…
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I get the feeling they are just disappointed in where liberalism has shifted and their recent work is calling out that discomfort.
My reading of both is quite honestly the exact opposite of what you describe, they tend to call out the authoritarianism they see no matter the side. Frankly even Taibbi’s recent foray into Government and Twitter is more an indictment of a government’s overreach into controlling speech which is very authoritarian in action. That series spoke about both Trump and Biden’s administrations attempting to control public discourse. It certainly feels like it was more critical to the Biden admin, and that might help the GOP…but that might be because there was a lot more evidence of it provided to him.
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#489I don't trust this article at all . > Sources within the US government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. All were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus. > It is unclear who in the U.S. government had access to the intelligence about the sick WIV workers, how long they had it, and why it was not shared with the pub…
You won't have to wait long for confirmation. The Director of National Intelligence will be required by law to declassify information about the infected researchers on June 18th, including their names, symptoms, date of onset and role at WIV.[1] [1] https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/619...
If any exists.
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I'm of two minds on that. On one hand: yes, more data will inform future technical approaches and procedures. On the other hand: no, people are technically ignorant, xenophobic, and more willing to scapegoat and project anger than reflect on their own behavior.
I don't like being lied or condescended to, just because most people can't handle the information. Also, it often backfires. Like, in early 2020, when the CDC said masks were unnecessary, then that N95s were unnecessary, it was glaringly obvious that this was propaganda to keep the public from panic-buying PPE and causing shortages. Some people believed them, took inadequate protections, got sick or died. It led to i…
This. The many little white lies killed trust in institutions.
People knew things were not adding up. The mistrust drive them to search and search for answers, and if you search long enough on internet, something will turn up because search engine don't have discernment.
That created the breeding ground for conspiracy theorist to gain unprecedented audience.