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Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ease staffing shortages

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I once heard that nowhere on Earth you're ever more than 6 meters away from a rat. I don't think that's true, but it's probably still a bad idea to blindly assume that there's no vermin anywhere. You keep vermin away by not feeding them.

The province of Alberta in Canada is famous for trying to be rat free, and I think they mostly succeeded

Alberta is ostensibly free of invasive Norwegian rats, but overlaps with the natural range of native bushy tailed wood rats.

Re: Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ease staffing shortages

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Its not a shortage of workers, it's a shortage of underpayable workers.

This is likely true. I just read a report that said that the shortage highly correlates with the reduction of immigrants due to COVID and the tightening of immigration into the US. It may not be the only factor, but it is one that contributes to the shortage of service workers. Like it or not, new immigrants are more likely to take jobs that pay less as compared to non-immigrants.

Here's a Washington Post article that speaks to the tie between the labor shortage and immigration.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221215195859/https://www.washi...

However you feel about immigration there's no doubt that we need more people to do some jobs. We are not making enough people. If you don't like immigration, get busy and start making some kids.

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I am playing a video game now, where I should run a nation. Most of the game is about making economical tradeoffs. I want a GDP growth, so I have to develop sophisticated industries with higher throughouput. These industries has better margins and can afford better wages. As a result, no one wants to work in agriculture. There are three ways out of it: 1) make agriculture more sophisticated, like automatization, whic…

This makes sense. And the game sounds really interesting! What is it called? I may try it out.

Sounds like Victoria 3.

Re: Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ease staffing shortages

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I think there is the other side to why hotels are unable to raise wages and therefore are unable to raise prices.

With the introduction of services like Airbnb, the increase in supply of accomodation means that it is very much a consumers market where accomodation is almost indistinguishable is competing purely on price.

This is combined with the fact that the opportunity cost of owning a property for the purpose of short term let is very high. Each night your property is vacant you are unable to resell that night in the future (unless you are doc from back to the future).

I think this all leads to a situation were there is very little a hotel can do to raise wages: raise wages and raise prices then consumers will pick the cheapest practically identical accomodation near by.

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> $16 an hour I was in Vegas last month and they were advertising something like $12-13/hr for hotel cleaning jobs. In Vegas! Bonkers.

Why is that "bonkers"? What should these workers be paid in your opinion? Perhaps this is exactly the attitude that's causing this problem?

It’s not so much a problem as a correction - wages have mostly tracked inflation since the ‘70s (the $15/hr people get paid for menial jobs today sounds glamorous but is roughly the same as the $2/hr I was making at a menial job back then), plus now you have all the issues with the healthcare system being an unworkable mess - thank Richard Nixon for that.

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I find installing the app likely means more Privacy When I travel, and in the App I provide my Work address and contact info, not my personal info When checking in at the desk they take my government ID, often scan it into go knows what system or what security, and then replace my Work info with my personal address in their systems No thank you, I will take the app instead

In the US, I'm not sure I've ever had a desk worker more than glance at an ID. Many places do require one though--had a heck of a time checking into a Travelodge of all things once because I had lost my license. Not sure how much of this is hotel rules and how much local regulation. Makes me wonder how this works when you use digital check-in. It's true in Europe they often copy your license and, in some countries, I…

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In some Las Vegas hotels I no longer need to stop at a counter or stand in a line and it’s 1000x better experience. I can walk directly to my room and scan my phone. I can scan my phone for parking. I can grab extra keys at a kiosk, if I need them. I never have to talk to anyone, if I don’t want to. I also select the option not to have my room cleaned each day. I’ll ask someone in the hall for towels if I stay long e…

You can also pay the kiosk $30 for the rare privilege of early check in. Completely soulless.

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I wonder where everyone has gone. The lazy answer is that companies aren't paying enough. But how is it better to sit at home making $0 than working and having an income? How do they afford rent or electricity or pay for car insurance? The workforce participation rate is still well below pre-pandemic levels. Millions of people just up and left the workforce. It's not as if they are looking for work at the right wage,…

Over a million people died of covid. Many more have become permanently disabled. Many of them were retired seniors but among the people who were not, they were disproportionately service workers who couldn’t wfh.

95% of COVID deaths are of people above 50 years [1]. I think you need a bit more evidence to support the idea that worker shortage is because workers are dead or disabled.

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1254488/us-share-of-tota...

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What this labor shortage indicates to me is that a significant number of people are willing to reduce the goods/services they consume, in exchange for having to work less. I'm not certain how COVID/lockdowns precipitated this change, but I'm fairly certain they were directly or indirectly the catalyst.

Reduce the goods and services they consume? This would show up as a drop in real GDP

Yes it should show up as a drop in real GDP.

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Several states and the Federal government found bump stock close enough to automatic that they are no longer legal. I’d guess the quote from the article is referring to the same point of view, a thin line from the perspective of the non gun-owning layman.

It's a thin line because of terrible reporting. This is destructive because until we get basic facts clear the pro-gun people are just not going to take people who say such things seriously. No more "assault-style" weapons or "fully semi-automatic" guns. Just tell the truth and break down the semantic defenses.

Naw, it’s a thin line because the whole point of bump stocks is to make a semi-automatic fire like an automatic. Even the NRA says so, this has nothing to do with the quality of reporting.

‘In the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, twelve bump stocks were found at the scene.[7] The National Rifle Association stated on October 5, 2017, "Devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations"’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_stock#Federal

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