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Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #213
tptacek wrote: post #117

This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

You are right. And that cycle of being told he was crazy but having massive success, was repeated TWICE in music and fashion.

So it makes sense his ego would be making it hard to see the world as it is, EVEN IF he didn't have any mental illness at all.

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Post by AzzieElbab »

tptacek wrote: post #117

This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

Do you think there would be same level of uproar if he decided to donate x millions to blm all of a sudden?

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

godshatter wrote: post #223
smcl wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you feel about HN's approach - flagged or heavily downvoted comments are invisible if you are not logged in or if you have not changed "showdead" from the default unchecked state (at which point they're rendered in a hard-to-read colour)?

I'm not the person you're responding to, but I myself prefer giving the users the moderation tools that affect only their view of the content. Users trying to save other users from posts they personally disagree with, in my opinion, can lead to echo chambers just by itself. Let me configure my account so that I can block or mute specific users or highlight keywords I can add to a list or allow users to tag posts. Tha…

Nobody wants to reinvent moderation and have a list of keywords and such that they have to maintain.

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Post by z7 »

djur wrote: post #444
jimbob45 wrote: post #398

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be clear, he's saying that it felt like everyone already had their message about Uvalde coordinated before the Uvalde event had fully come out in the news to the point where even The Gap, a store as removed as possible from being a news organization, had a message prepared. That feels different than "people at the Gap knew about Uvalde". Is that still an insane thing to say?

First, he said that it "felt like the people at the Gap knew about the school shooting that Matthew McConaughey was talking about before it even happened", comparing it to the movie _The Truman Show_. In response to Carlson's request for clarification he does say "I'm not saying that they did" but he clearly doesn't rule it out, either. Second, it's not clear what statement by The Gap he's talking about, but my guess…

So the most upvoted comment claims West said "the "people at the Gap" knew about Uvalde". But he actually said "it felt like" that was the case, while adding that "I'm not saying that they did"? I mean, maybe we should just stick to what he actually said. I wonder how accurate the other claims about his claims are.

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Post by npteljes »

logicalmonster wrote: post #390

How could an average outside observer distinguish between another's mental illness and a guy who's just a real out of the box thinker who might be wrong about many ideas but might also add value to the world by perceiving reality in an atypical way? A lot of posters are claiming Kanye is mentally ill and unable to manage his own affairs. What is the direct evidence of this? And I don't simply mean "provide examples o…

>Kanye is mentally ill and unable to manage his own affairs. What is the direct evidence of this?

One such was, according to him, an occasion when "they handcuffed him, drugged him, put him on the bed".

Now despite this, I also don't agree with just handwaving the discussions then, like, oh he's mad, so everything strange thing he does must be because of that. I think that it's perfectly valid to be mentally ill on one hand, and a huge asshole on the other. A strong motivator for sure, but illness is not a character trait, mental or not.

https://people.com/music/kanye-west-opens-up-about-bipolar-d...

On a second thought, I'd also like to add that the human psyche is not a solved problem. An average outside observer absolutely can't tell if an out of place thing is because of illness, or something other than that. Even the "standard" way to recognize and classify mental disorders, the DSM-5, changes from one edition to the other.

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Post by asdff »

mrtksn wrote: post #11

Musk and everyone else is right that we do need a platform with free speech. The only problem is that all those free speech advocates are actually NIMBY's when it comes to free speech. I have been following self proclaimed free speech absolutists(because I too, believe in free speech but don't believe it exists) and they are totally not the kind of people that say "I hate what you say but I will die defending your ri…

We have a platform with free speech: your own website! I don't get why these personalities who are charging this free speech narrative don't just decamp with their massive following to their own website. It's like arguing a bar has no right to kick out a drunk and disorderly person, because "free speech." Sorry, people can kick you out of the place they own, if you don't like that then start up your own bar/twitter/etc.

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Post by dementiapatent »

ch4s3 wrote: post #254
dementiapatent wrote: post #105

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I would like to point out that employers are/were permitted to discriminate against these people under federal law: The Equal Rights Act of 1964: https://www.eeoc.gov/statutes/title-vii-civil-rights-act-196... > As used in this subchapter, the phrase "unlawful employment practice" shall not be deemed to include any action or measure taken by an employer, labor organization, joint labor­ management committee, or emplo…

To be fair, when that was written being a member of the CPUSA meant there was a very good chance that someone was working with the KGB. There was a long history of people with college ties to communist groups going to work in sensitive industries and passing secrets to the KGB.

I find it interesting that similar claims have been made against several members of the Republican party in recent times (by prominent news outlets).

What is the threshold of evidence that taints an entire political party?

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Post by glomgril »

c3534l wrote: post #425
AlwaysRock wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

I don't know much about Kanye, but are reports of people telling him he didn'h have talent to be a rapper genuine, or just something he tells people? Because it sounds like the sort of thing people make up for their own personal narrative. It reminds me of when people say things like "the doctor told me I only had a year to live" - which is something no doctor would actually say because its a massive legal liability,…

Even among fans, early Kanye was never considered a great rapper (although he was always considered an elite producer). It always felt clear to me that he'd be around and doing big things in the music industry for many years, but I kinda assumed he'd be much more behind the scenes and focusing on production.

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Post by VikingCoder »

seanw444 wrote: post #421
VikingCoder wrote: post #409

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Communication that can be censored is good. "true free speech" is the perfection you're striving for. "Life is full of hurt." Are you an arms dealer? Why not? It's profitable, and sure, people get hurt, but what's the problem with that?

Being able to stop bad at the expense of good is the perfection you're striving for. There are two different priorities here we will simply never agree on. Both harm someone.

Being 100% immune to censorship is the perfection you're striving for.

If you weren't striving for perfection then you would accept the status quo as good enough, not try to make something new.

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Post by 0x445442 »

logicalmonster wrote: post #436
anoonmoose wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He has personally admitted to being diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

I never want to be engaged in mind-reading, but it seems to me that the people who are shouting about him being mentally ill the loudest are doing so in a way to justify stifling everything he says, as if saying "he's mentally ill" ends any conceivable discussion about any of his ideas. I think my general question remains. "How could an average outside observer distinguish between another's mental illness and a guy w…

Even if he’s known to be mentally ill, his ideas can still stand. Take Ted Kaczynski for example. His actions were inexcusable but his ideas and writings on technology and its relationship to society have value.
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