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“It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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Post by potatoman22 »

rootusrootus wrote: post #26
lostgame wrote: post #3

I can’t take this site seriously. It says it’s ‘not about’ the green and blue bubbles. It is , and it’s largely that Apple has a vested interest in making their ecosystem look so much better in general. If I’m texting my friends with an Android and group chat, etc; isn’t working properly - I will automatically assume something about Android is broken, because it works perfectly to my other friends who use iPhones. Ap…

> iMessage is one of Apple’s most valuable psychological tricks to keep people within the ecosystem, or convert others to join in. Perhaps a kernel of truth there, but the real success of iMessage is how it gives you all the features of a modern instant messaging platform without any hassle. Built in to the phone, same app as SMS with automatic fallback, available on MacOS, not limited to a phone#, etc. Yeah, I can g…

Couldn't everyone have that ecosystem if they adopted a common standard?

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Post by davidro80 »

simonjgreen wrote: post #289
aaaaaaaaaaab wrote: post #241

Ah, another "grassroots" initiative to adopt a "standard" (RCS) from Google! No thanks, I don't want this RCS crap on my phone. iMessage works seamlessly on my multiple phones, iPads, and Macs. Fuck off with that carrier lock-in trash.

It's from GSMA https://www.gsma.com/futurenetworks/rcs/

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Post by deadbunny »

kazinator wrote: post #466
shireboy wrote: post #439

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gist of the article has been a soapbox of mine for years. We wouldn't stand for "you can only send Gmail email to other Gmail users" (Fidonet people know), and shouldn't settle for similar with messaging. That said, this spam angle is an aspect I hadn't fully considered.

How easily can you mail a Google calendar item to Google user, using non-Google software?

Doesn't it fall back to a .ics file?

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Post by O__________O »

Neither SMS, nor RCS, have built-in end-to-end encryption — and both should die a quick and timely death. iMessage to use end-to-end encryption, but it’s not open, and should also die.

What messaging needs is an open modern standards, nothing more, nothing less.

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Post by kccqzy »

hot_gril wrote: post #379
pwpw wrote: post #234

This is such a weirdly US specific issue. It's hard to understand why people in this country refuse to adopt a data-based messaging service such as Signal or WhatsApp like the rest of the world has. Why are US citizens so set on having a terrible experience when messaging half of the population? How did other countries decide that using platform agnostic messaging services are better? I believe the UK has a similar s…

Cause it's not terrible. It still works ok the way it is, and people tend to use FB Messenger or something if they want a more complex group chat with Android users in it. Considering that they do this even if it's an all-Android chat, I don't think it's Apple's fault, as scummy as they act with SMS. Also, people don't care for metric cause it's not better. Basing your system around the physical properties of water d…

> It's a nice spread of 0-100˚F outdoors usually

This is such a U.S. and Europe centric view of "outdoors" that I almost spit out my coffee. And probably a small part of U.S. and Europe at that. Ask people in the tropics or subtropical regions and they probably never experienced 0˚F in their whole life.

Originally the lower defining point, 0°F, was established as the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride. That's just as arbitrary as defining 0˚C as the freezing point of water.

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Post by spiderice »

hot_gril wrote: post #469
xcskier56 wrote: post #456

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will agree that one of the few places that the imperial system is hands down better than metric is that on the highway it's roughly 1 mile per minute. That and it's just barely possible to run a mile in under 4 minutes, so makes for a nice clean time barrier. But these are just coincidences and are the exception not the rule

They are coincidences since these units were created well before modern cars, but they seem to have been created with reasonable relations to human constraints, instead of water.

Everything you said about temperature is 100% true. Fahrenheit is simply better for day to day use.

I disagree with you about distance measurements. I think the relationship between millimeters, centimeters, and meters is so much better than the relationship between 1/8th inch, an inch, and a foot, that it makes up for the convenience of traveling roughly one mile per minute on the freeway.

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Post by kaashif »

baby wrote: post #404
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SMS is the only federated messaging system guaranteed available on all cell phones. That makes it more useful than any walled garden.

Not end to end encrypted lol

I'll have you know all of my texts are encrypted with GPG.

90% of my time is spent copying and pastingl...help me.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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Post by fancyham »

baby wrote: post #386

I always thought iMessage was the dumbest thing. I’m abroad, I try to iMessage someone because I know it’s going to be free: oops, it downgrade to text and I end up paying. Or I’m on a bad wifi connection: oops, I will not use your signal and just block. In any case everybody I know uses whatsapp so I don’t think it’s a huge deal. Texts are for spams or restaurant waiting lists.

Then disable ‘send as SMS if iMessage fails'. There’s a toggle for it.
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