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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by scns »

egypturnash wrote: post #276
scns wrote: post #126

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Charging the battery over 80% produces more heat and degradesvits lifetime, did you ran it plugged in all the time? My phones manufacturer stops at 90 but i installed an alarm to pull the plug earlier.

I ran it exactly the same way I ran the several Mac laptops that preceded it: unplugged in cafes, unplugged in parks, and closed while plugged into the external monitor on my desk. It’s rare for it to spend more than a couple days plugged in, even during the pandemic. The exact same usage pattern that produced a slow, multi-year decline in battery capacity in every other machine resulted in the 2016 Pro suddenly star…

My comment my have been read like trying to blaming it on you, that was the opposite of my intention.

I think all computers with Li-Ion batteries should have user accessible charging limits, like Tuxedo and Thinkpads have.

For now we have to help ourselves with software, i use BatteryBot Pro from f-droid on my Android devices.

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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by kowlo »

ubermonkey wrote: post #475
kowlo wrote: post #464

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I recommend expanding your web search just a little farther... 90 WPM is not considered "very, very high"! 90 WPM is ok, certainly above average. But please don't take it personally, I was just scrolling through the comments and saw what I thought was a typo, and if not, thought I'd share my perspective. 120WPM can be considered "fast". If 90 WPM is "very, very fast" then what about those at 120 or 150?

Keep digging!

I don’t understand - why the childish behaviour and wilful ignorance? If the facts don’t matter to you, that’s fine. All the best.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by jonplackett »

asdff wrote: post #87
jonplackett wrote: post #39

Meanwhile my MacBook Pro from Touch wood - 2013 is still chugging along with the only issue a slightly reduced battery capacity. They don’t build ‘em like they used to.

I just replaced the battery myself in my 2012 macbook pro and I'm so happy with my battery life now, the replacement had a higher capacity than even the OEM (that apple no longer sells). A full charge with a top off during lunch lasts me a full day now. I've never seen this computer run for longer than three and a half hours, now it goes for double that.

My 2011 was still in service too until a year or so ago, but I lent it to someone and they didn’t notice the battery swelling. It popped the track pad right out and must have damaged something else in the process because even with trackpad and battery replaced (by me with a quick YouTube tutorial, probably the last ever time I’ll ever fix an apple product myself) it still won’t turn on. RIP. You did your time.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by Tagbert »

robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

There must be something else going wrong with your MBP. You might want to wipe it and reset things up.

I’m running a 2014 MBP with Big Sur and it is no slower than on Catalina.

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Post by Tagbert »

arepublicadoceu wrote: post #465
paulryanrogers wrote: post #461

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Even on a single user system which doesn't run untrusted software?

> Even on a single user system which doesn't run untrusted software? If you use the web you run untrusted code all the time, unless you block js and never turn it on. Unless you verify each code, on each software you run and build it yourself or have reproducible builds, then you run untrusted software. I would only be comfortable disabling these mitigations if the computer were air-gaped and never touched the intern…

does JavaScript really have the level of access to abuse these kinds of vulnerabilities?

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by Tagbert »

konart wrote: post #268
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Sometimes I feel like an alien with my late 2013 MBPr working all the same with the latest os.

Yes, 2014 MBP on Big Sur. No performances issues.

I suspect that some of these cases of slowdown are a result of something getting messed up in the update or some non-standard process that is getting bogged down on Big Sur.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by Tagbert »

jppope wrote: post #146
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Apple is the master of planned obsolescence.

You seem to be ignoring all of the people who are posting here saying that their older MBPs are running Big Sur without performance impact. Obviously something is going on on those machines that are having performance issues, but it’s certainly not planned obsolescence or inevitable. There may some shared situation that is the cause for just those machines or they may each have their own issues causing a similar impact. Hard to tell without specifics.

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Post by ndesaulniers »

okprod wrote: post #110
feifan wrote: post #86

Empirically, the 2016–2020 MacBook Pros seem to be relatively unreliable. My 2016 would frequently have wake-from-sleep problems, occasional kernel panics, and fried its logic board with a pop after about 3 years. My 2019 thermal-throttles every day, kernel panics a few times a month, and has a battery that just gives up under load. Meanwhile my 2019 Mac Pro (tower) is probably the most rock-solid reliable computer I…

My MBP Retina 2013 has been going strong in various environments, not babied at all.

Can't run newer releases of osx (err macOS) anymore, though, right? Only a matter of time before there's no more updates to an unsupported platform.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by danuker »

brokenmachine wrote: post #437
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #379

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"Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS if your hardware wasn't built to support the newer versions." When Apple introduced OSX I refused to upgrade a G4; I stayed on OS9. I never connected that computer to the internet, it was only used as a DAW. This "upgrade the OS" nonsense is an old trick. Microsoft made it infamous. I had Windows computers back in the day, late 90s, where I only upgraded the hardware,…

>Not that I know what other users want, but I want stuff that works reliably, does not slow down and does not need constant fixing. I prefer software that stays the same over software that is constantly changing. I like software that keeps doing what I installed it to do and nothing more. This is exactly how I feel. I think there are two camps - some people like shiny stuff for the sake of shiny stuff. I want to perf…

How would you know you are doing something inefficiently, so that you can look into it?

And where would you look?

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