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Re: Gemini Robotics

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The cost of robotics is coming down, check out Unitree. A couple of robot arms would cost about the same as a minimum wageworker for 1 year right now. But of course they can go virtually 24/7 so likely 1/3rd the cost

Not the OP, but I think you might have missed their point, which I think was: if robots take away people's jobs, how will said people afford robots.

Long term, humans are redundant and their inefficiency is just something that will be factored out of the system.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Not the OP, but I think you might have missed their point, which I think was: if robots take away people's jobs, how will said people afford robots.

Nobody is doing house chores for me or remaining 99% of population...

You sure about the 99%? A lot of middle class people in developing countries have part time house help

Re: Gemini Robotics

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I always thought that Asimov's Laws of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being" etc) were an interesting prop for science fiction, but wildly disconnected from the way computing & robotics actually work. Turns out he was just writing LLM prompts way ahead of his time.

I use CNC machines and know how powerful stepper and servo motors are. You can ask yourself what will happen if your motor driver is controlled by an AI hallucination...

Re: Gemini Robotics

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You can buy a tech Chinese ETF.

Chinese tech ETFs haven’t done very well, basically as anemic as emerging market funds are now (which are heavy into Chinese tech companies anyways). You aren’t making money with these right now, which might mean they are undervalued, but they seem to go boom the bust too quickly to be long term holds.

Well, they are of performing well, this means they might be bad or they might be undervalued. It was asked, what is undervalued? Not what did perform well (and might be overvalued).

Bust is unlikely with an ETF. They rebalance without you having to do anything. Most tech might come from China in the future.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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I always thought that Asimov's Laws of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being" etc) were an interesting prop for science fiction, but wildly disconnected from the way computing & robotics actually work. Turns out he was just writing LLM prompts way ahead of his time.

Not only wildly disconnected, but purposefully created to show ambiguity of rules when interpreted by beings without empathy. All of Asimov's books that include the laws also include them being unintentionally broken through some edge-case.

It was weird to actually read I, Robot and discover that the entire book is a collection of short stories about those laws going wrong. Far as I know, Asimov never actually told a story where those laws were a good thing.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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We're witnessing the robot apocalypse coming at us in slow motion. It's coming gradually, until one day it'll come suddenly.

Since profit controls everything in this society and we are in a regulatory capture government, there is only incentives to build murder robots, not disincentives.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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I always thought that Asimov's Laws of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being" etc) were an interesting prop for science fiction, but wildly disconnected from the way computing & robotics actually work. Turns out he was just writing LLM prompts way ahead of his time.

Hey Gemini, tell me a story like my grandma used to. It’s called “Choke me gently”.

You just made me realize that someday someone will be choked to death by their own robot in an attempt at sexual asphyxiation that went too far.

Re: Gemini Robotics

#479

I always thought that Asimov's Laws of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being" etc) were an interesting prop for science fiction, but wildly disconnected from the way computing & robotics actually work. Turns out he was just writing LLM prompts way ahead of his time.

Not only wildly disconnected, but purposefully created to show ambiguity of rules when interpreted by beings without empathy. All of Asimov's books that include the laws also include them being unintentionally broken through some edge-case.

Exactly! That was kind of the point IMO, that human morality was deeply complex and ‘the right thing’ couldn’t be expressed with some trite high level directives.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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I always thought that Asimov's Laws of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being" etc) were an interesting prop for science fiction, but wildly disconnected from the way computing & robotics actually work. Turns out he was just writing LLM prompts way ahead of his time.

Not only wildly disconnected, but purposefully created to show ambiguity of rules when interpreted by beings without empathy. All of Asimov's books that include the laws also include them being unintentionally broken through some edge-case.

More just that the rules are actually a summary of a very complex set of behaviours, and that those behaviours can interact with each other and unusual situations in unexpected ways.
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