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US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Re: US Government Bans Export of Nvidia A100 and H100 GPUs to China and Russia

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Post by hulitu »

InCityDreams wrote: post #449
coretx wrote: post #342

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It's not just the US government, it's many civilized governments doing these sort of things. And in this particular case this european is grateful for it because it is not about setting ceilings or hindering industry, it's about preventing the abuse of dual use goods. In other words; Not being fsckd by our own stuff. Other examples can be found here: https://www.wassenaar.org/app/uploads/2021/12/Public-Docs-Vo...

>it's many civilized governments... China not civilized? And before human rights becomes the main talking point: Guantanamo.

They are using civilized torture in Guantanamo, you know.

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

RosanaAnaDana wrote: post #36
Guthur wrote: post #19

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Between whom? Hard to see any particular country having the desire or where for all to undertake such an endeavour.

China/Taiwan

From either of these countries perspective, this would be a civil war.

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Post by hulitu »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #390
LionTamer wrote: post #264

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When was this done previously?

The opposite was of course done when the US sold a ton of Xeon Phi accelerators to China when they built the Tianhe-2 supercomputer. My favourite conspiracy theory is that this was done deliberately by the US, since Xeon Phi was a large pile of steaming turd, so the Chinese wasted money on a machine with high theoretical FLOPS but crappy real world performance, and also wasted the time of their scientists and program…

Intel processors were always a waste of money.

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Post by oyashirochama »

notsapiensatall wrote: post #359
sandworm101 wrote: post #299

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So... designed in the 80s. Built in the 90s. Never exported. And not manufactured for over a decade?

Think like a marketer. How about, "Fast, quiet, and comfortable in the clouds"?

I mean comfortable is easy when you can't breathe and pass-out causing potential hundreds of millions in damage and loss of a qualified pilot.

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

Guthur wrote: post #19
RosanaAnaDana wrote: post #14

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More likely a landwar in asia.

Between whom? Hard to see any particular country having the desire or where for all to undertake such an endeavour.

Not that there's anything coming up right now, but Pakistan is looking extremely fragile right now with a dead economy and an unprecedented natural disaster. That, along with a more right wing India can't be good news.

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

systemvoltage wrote: post #57
immigrantheart wrote: post #26

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US is scared.

No, the US world police is winding down (Bretton Woods era). Expect massive chaos everywhere except in US for decades to come.

The US will create its own chaos by electing 80 year olds.

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Post by RobertoG »

hulitu wrote: post #470
RobertoG wrote: post #460

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"civilized governments"? how that works?

I think they mean by "civilized governments" governments who don't have military officers as ministers. Nothing to do with civilization.

So, you think that the original intention was to say "civilian governments".

You are very generous with your interpretations, I admire your optimism in how civilized comments in Internet are.

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Post by Gasp0de »

tankenmate wrote: post #420
treefry wrote: post #404

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They cannot manufacture such advanced chip even if they have circuit design.

Not only that, by the time they figure how to do it the rest of the world will have moved on by at least 2 generations. SMIC has announced 14nm (but shipments in volume aren't clear), TSMC will have 5nm chips shipping in volume by the end of the month.

Taiwan is pretty close to China...

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Post by thriftwy »

himinlomax wrote: post #426
dontlaugh wrote: post #137

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Taiwan doesn’t even see itself as a independent, the government there still claims all of (Qing) China.

That's only true if you take at face value an official lie that absolutely EVERYONE understands to be a lie, as well as understands that everyone else knows it's a lie. That's like saying North Korea is a democracy because everyone calls it the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

North Korea is only Democratic because Stalin hated the idea of them being called PRK, which would resolve to the same cyrillic TLA as PRC.

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Post by Sabinus »

LeonTheremin wrote: post #199
option wrote: post #181

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wouldn’t a better strategy be have china depend on those product but require a sorts of built-on remote control in them in case of a conflict.

Eric Schmidt, the former Google chairman, told Reuters in a recent interview that high-end processors should have kill-switches. “Knowing where the chips go is probably a very good thing. You could for example, on every chip put in essentially a public private key pair, which authenticates it and allows it to work”. hxxps://www.reuters.com/technology/chip-challenge-keeping-western-semiconductors-out-russian-weapons-2…

Your claims would be more believed if you would elaborate and answer people's questions.
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