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The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by jrm4 »

disruptthelaw wrote: post #438
jrm4 wrote: post #378

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If you want something slightly more techy; the ONLY app that I absolutely cannot live without is Blitzmail on Android (I believe there's an Apple equivalent?) It's simply an an ultra-simplified one destination email client. One button on your homescreen opens up a little text input window. Hit send, and it emails yourself. That's it, and it has been absolutely life changing, I've retained so much and simplified so ma…

What is your workflow to process all the emails to yourself?

Event scheduling I do in "remind calendar" for Linux with a little notify-send.

Most everything else in my life organization-wise, I use http://zim-wiki.org for. I just go through them and file them in ideas or todos.

I try to avoid using my phone as much as possible. The rule of thumb there is -- if it's not a real human communicating to me directly/individually or as part of a small group, I should try to just use the computer or not use it at all.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Post by lk0nga »

Grumbledour wrote: post #95
bipson wrote: post #71

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E-Mail and Python notebooks? I don't think they these are the primary use cases for a "digital paper" device. What you consider an "overengineered piece" of paper might be intentional. Maybe you don't need paper - some people do.

But should a more modern, digital paper, not enhance the human intellect? Why should I not be able to jot down a math formula that the computer then solves for me? Why cant I draw a triangle and let it compute the sides? Why not write a letter to a friend and send it directly to them and also read their answer on the same device? This would be enhancing paper for me. Combining the at this point pretty natural way of…

With any newish onyx boox you can do all that and more.

I wonder if people happy with their Remarkable had seen what onyx devices are able to do.

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Post by immrammc »

chevill wrote: post #415
CosmicShadow wrote: post #260

I'm always super intrigued by the reMarkable 2, but I think it's because it paints an image of the type of person I think it'd be cool to be, someone who can just write down notes and draw stuff with a really cool, slim device. Someone who carries around moleskines and uses them, instead of just buying so many of them in different shapes and leaving them in a drawer packed to the brim with notebooks. The problem keep…

>hand writing or drawing. A few weeks of practicing 10 minutes a day or so will give you good handwriting. A few weeks of a basic drawing course with a small amount of practice will give you decent enough skills to get your ideas down on paper. People naturally do the things they like to do. I actually enjoy the process of writing with fountain pens, calligraphy, taking notes, etc. Strangely, I also really enjoy the…

Any drawing courses you’d recommend?

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Post by cycomanic »

anigbrowl wrote: post #421
eloisant wrote: post #377

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There is the Sony Digital Paper DPTS1, but it's very expensive.

I see it's been replaced by the Sony DPT-RP1, though that's still expensive. At least this is proof it's possible and creates hope for competitors to emerge.

I have both the Sony and the remarkable and the note taking experience is not comparable. Since I bought the RM2 I've essentially not touched the Sony, the RM2 is so much better. I'd also add that I use the RM2 for reading and annotating pdfs a lot and I had the same thought about size at the beginning. I am a bit more twisted now, I'd definitely like a larger screen when annotating pdfs (just reading is fine actually), but I also think I would leave the device at home much more if it were bigger. The RM2 is a perfect size for always having it with me.

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Post by cycomanic »

stewbrew wrote: post #129
wastholm wrote: post #111

I bought a Remarkable 2 a month or two ago because I wanted a cool hackable e-ink Linux computer. But instead I immediately started using it as an e-book and document reader and note-taking pad, and nothing else. And, so far at least, that's perfect. The screen is beautiful (a bit gray, but the black is really black so the contrast is still good), the device is thin and reasonably light, I only have to charge it once…

Since you can connect via ssh to the device you should be able to use SCP too, shouldn't you? I personally prefer to mount the cloud via some fuse-based solution though.

Yeah I use rmfuse for connecting. It works like a charm.

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Post by cycomanic »

vinni2 wrote: post #163
nosianu wrote: post #131

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As others have said, pinch to zoom works now. Although that only helps to zoom in to one spot, if I were to try using that to read a page where the font is too small, having to shift the page left and right while zoomed, it would be a nightmare to read a document. My gripe is I cannot switch the device to show a PDF in landscape mode. Then at least pretty much all documents' fonts would be large enough, if I use the…

For me main use case is reading research articles annotate on it and sync it with my desktop and share it with my colleagues. Ideally I wanted a bibliography library tool like mendeley or zotero and keep all my annotations and notes synced. But that is far from possible on any e-ink tablet so far I have tried.

You can get reasonably close. You can use the zutilo extension for zotero which offers you a "move to tablet" option where you just point it to directory. I point it to a fuse mount of the remarkable. When zutilo moves the pdf to the tablet it removes it from the bibliography (just the pdf) and adds a special tag. At a later point you can do a fetch from tablet and zotero pulls back the paper from the tablet directory and extracts the annotations. This is also the biggest issue, because it can't extract text from your handwriting.

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Post by devenvdev »

wastholm wrote: post #111

I bought a Remarkable 2 a month or two ago because I wanted a cool hackable e-ink Linux computer. But instead I immediately started using it as an e-book and document reader and note-taking pad, and nothing else. And, so far at least, that's perfect. The screen is beautiful (a bit gray, but the black is really black so the contrast is still good), the device is thin and reasonably light, I only have to charge it once…

I guess the problem is that there is no directory to scp into, not that scp doesn't work?

Because if ssh does work - you can always ssh tunnel, and pipe into netcat. A nice trick to impress junior devs BTW :)

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Post by mattowen_uk »

abawany wrote: post #192
mattowen_uk wrote: post #82

I want to switch fully to digital magazines (as PDFs or via the publishers apps), but I can't find the right hardware to do this. I've worked out that for almost 100% scaling of a magazine PDF, I need about a 13" screen, in 4:3 ratio (or thereabouts). 16:9 ratio is just too tall and thin. e-ink devices seem too expensive for this single use-case, as does the iPad Pro, which although ideal is massive overkill. I've ev…

How about a Chromebook with a detachable screen (e.g. Lenovo Duet, Acer, or the HP X2)? These can run Android apps and thus support most digital magazine apps such as Zinio plus they often cost much less than a comparable ipad.

I didn't realise you could get Chromebooks with detachable screens - I'll look into this - thanks!

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Post by codethief »

mbreese wrote: post #443
codethief wrote: post #174

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> I'm not sure what you mean when you say the RM2 has "pretty much none" when it comes to PDF reading and annotation capabilities. Well, all you can basically do is scribble within a PDF. The RM2 doesn't offer proper PDFs annotations and it doesn't even come close to the Supernote in terms of other useful features like bookmarking, digests, etc. > EDIT: Wow. Looked at the A5X and for the price compared to the RM2, it…

This is going to sound like an odd question -- does the Supernote do too much? Or is it still simple to use? I've been wavering on a RM2. I already have an iPad with the Paperlike screen cover. And I absolutely love writing on it. However, it has two downsides for me that keep me from using it all the time for notes: 1) It's still pretty heavy 2) It does too much. Seriously, I also have a keyboard for it, and there a…

I understand where you're coming from! Let me dodge your question by saying that, at least for me, the RM2 provides too little . Remarkable (the company) seems to pursuing Apple's vision here in that they're trying to avoid feature bloat – this I appreciate but I still think they should provide more than the most basic of features.

As for the Supernote, it comes with quite a few features I love but also a few ones (email, cloud sync, OCR) I don't really use. But that's fine as they never get in my way, so I don't really notice them.

One exception where the RM2 is (still?) superior feature-wise: Brush styles. The Supernote doesn't come with a lot of options here and is still missing a caligraphy pen and a pencil. It hasn't really bothered me but it might bother people who want to use their e-ink tablet for drawing.

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