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The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

#81
A little bit too expensive but so cool (because not just eInk but also hackable!) I'm definitely going to buy it. At the same time I would never buy function-limited proprietary thing like Kindle even if it was extremely cheap (I actually bought a PocketBook instead).

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

#82
I want to switch fully to digital magazines (as PDFs or via the publishers apps), but I can't find the right hardware to do this.

I've worked out that for almost 100% scaling of a magazine PDF, I need about a 13" screen, in 4:3 ratio (or thereabouts). 16:9 ratio is just too tall and thin.

e-ink devices seem too expensive for this single use-case, as does the iPad Pro, which although ideal is massive overkill.

I've even started going down the crazy route of trying to design something with a Raspberry Pi zero, and a HDMI LCD panel, but the power draw seems too prohibitive to make it viable.

Does anyone have any other suggestions here?

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

#83

I'm really glad I bought my ReMarkable2 (and Marker "Plus"), as it suits my use case extremely well: replacing stacks of 8.5x11" graph notepads, while adding digitization / sync, undo/redo, select/cut/paste/resize/move, (modest) pan/zoom, etc. Battery life and form factor are great. The writing UX is really something: low-latency, ~perfect hand detection, and the "feel" of writing. Yeah, the software's mediocre, but…

I bought Remarkable 2 and returned it sadly. It does one thing very well which is writing. But not a great tool for reading PDFs. When I figured pinch to zoom was not possible that was it for me. It’s a really polished tool for wiring but they have a lot of room to improve for reading experience.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

#84

I always think of the remarkable as a really odd device. Hardware wise, it looks great, but I seldom hear good things about the software, only that it is "improving" for years now. Also, while I think the form factor would be great for a text and graphics based computing device, they seem to invest as much energy as possible in playing down the computing angle, so that instead of having something great to do technica…

Remarkable is really a device for people who explicitly don't want those features. They're betting hard that the market exists, although it probably isn't as large as the market for an as-powerful-as-possible general-purpose computing device. I've seen it mentioned that someone got an USB keyboard working, and the device is pretty hackable overall (you can SSH to root over wifi out of the box!), but I think if you wa…

Let me just add that I am not talking about a powerful all purpose computing device, because I think we pretty much have this with modern tablets/laptops.

But I do feel the computing part could be much more utilized to make taking notes and reading text better. I am thinking of Hypertext, drawing tools like sketchpad, simple programming tools etc.

Not a device that does as much as possible badly, but one that could really push forward computing and text to get something more akin to digital paper we have seen for years in science fiction.

I don't begrudge people who like the extremely limited use case it has today, I personally just don't really get it why I should spend hundreds of dollars on something that I can pretty much get with a notebook and my smartphone camera.

On the other hand, this is a general problem these days that hampers innovation. As hard as hardware seems to be, it is obviously much easier than software, which is why so many devices these days fall short.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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I'm going to guess it is to keep it slim. And while I normally think this fad to make everything thin is stupid, in this one case I feel it makes sense. You want the thing you're writing on to protrude from the table as little as possible.

Thin (and especially light) tablets are not stupid. I have the fact that especially "pro" tablets are becoming heavier. They're not comfortable to hold. In my opinion the "perfect" tablet should not weigh more than 250-300 grams, we just don't have the tech for a flagship tablet that can weigh that much, yet.

I find weight particularly important for reading in bed or when lying down on the couch.

Experimentally, I've found that my Kindle (320 grams including case) hurts a lot less than my iPad (470 grams) which hurts a lot less than my Surface Pro 4 (790 grams) when dropped on my face.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

#86
Ah, e-readers. I'm looking for a good one since forever, but they are either too small, too slow or too costly. Hopefully technology developments will bring soon a good 10" before my eyes will need a 15" one:) Reading old books and magazines is also a problem: they're often 100% graphics with no OCRed text, therefore they're really slow, also zooming a page with diagrams on a technical book can be painful on low end hardware.

Does anyone have a model to suggest with 10" screen size? I don't have many other requirements, other than:

Decent speed, storage space and battery life. Support for beefy pdfs and other e-book formats. (this is important, one of my old readers took like forever to load a big book, then 15 seconds to turn each page). I would connect it only to my network, so it must not rely on cloud services et al. Color not needed, grayscale will do if well implemented. Taking notes not needed, although being able to fill pdf forms might be handy, but it's not a requirement.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

#87

I pre-ordered the Remarkable 1 and ended up returning it due to buggy software and the battery life not performing as advertised (had to recharge literally every day). I pre-ordered the Remarkable 2 when it came out because it was much more affordable. I've had it since November and have used it virtually every day. It's light and portable and I think I've charged it three times since November. They've definitely imp…

Interesting. That hasn't been my experience at all with the reMarkable 1. I do agree the software needed some work, but it has improved significantly since I first bought it. I have been debating purchasing the reMarkable 2 and although it looks great, I think I'm happy enough with the first device to keep it for now.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

#88
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Has anyone here used a reMarkable 2 and had the chance to compare it to a Supernote or a Note Air? I've had the opportunity to use a reMarkable in person, and it's the first and only digital writing device that I could tolerate to write notes. The MS Surface, iPad Pro and Samsung tablets have never cut it for me. It's difficult to quantify why - a combination of pen-to-display distance, latency and screen texture per…

If the reMarkable could integrate well with other productivity tools, I'd probably ask my employer for one. Being able to read my emails, manage my calendar, read my RSS feeds, access my documents from Google Drive and optionally annotate them (a copy of it in PDF form) would be what I'd have in mind to justify buying one.

Personally, I really wish the Remarkable 2 would integrate with O'Reilly's new learning platform. I love having access to just about every tech book ever written, but I hate reading on a screen. The Remarkable is the perfect form factor for displaying tech books and if I could get the O'Reilly app on the Remarkable and read from their library on it... that would be enough to push me over the edge to get one. Hell, if that was all I ever did with it that would be worth it for me.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

#89
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I bought the Onyx Boox Note Air some months ago, and I must say that I'm really happy with it. Screen refresh is good, there's almost no ghosting in default mode, and refresh rates are acceptable. There are only two downsides about it: The vendor does not respect FOSS and does not publish the sources for their modified Linux kernel, and the device constantly phones home to China. However, the device can be rooted eas…

I don’t like the software on my Onyx boox. It’s over engineered with too many options often not intuitive. Unless you opt in for their cloud service syncing sucks. I still can’t figure out how to access documents from Dropbox and edit them and sync it back.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

#90
I've been thinking of buying a ReMarkable, but all I really want is a reader without a backlight that can handle PDFs smoothly. (Ability to mark up is a plus but not necessary.) Based on this thread it seems like the RM/Boox are not really what I'm looking for.
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