Woke at Work: Why tech firms are trying to run away from politics and failing

Post by asdfasgasdgasdg » Sat, May 22, 2021, 3:49 AM UTC

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> There is nothing to suggest the man acted improperly at work. We've had this discussion already, but claiming sexist views is going to be a problem for you whether you do it at work or elsewhere because of how laws around hostile work environments and notice work. Particularly, if you go on to actually create a hostile work environment (as one might reasonably suppose you will, having publicly espoused the relevant…

> claiming sexist views This is a pretty vague statement especially as OP mentioned fiction. Not some book espousing his political views. You can pick most of the great authors and find a character or scene that was obscene, but it would be unfair to cherry pick 2-3 sentences, post them on twitter and pretend this represented them.

Post by 8note » Sat, May 22, 2021, 3:50 AM UTC

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> Boards should have more apprehension about their companies being exploited as political platforms by employees. The ownership of these companies are the ones pushing these politics. Their employees are just pointing out their hypocrisy.

They are, and the reason for this was given in the GP: "It's as though there is a bargain" The board and executives know who weilds the stick. If it's the left that generally wants higher corporate taxes, more regulation, more anti-trust, and they control the media, then they're the ones that you want to appease as a bargain. Adopting wokeness is significantly cheaper than all the alternatives. The right mostly wants…

Post by refurb » Sat, May 22, 2021, 3:50 AM UTC

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I agree 100%! Constitutional rights are a great example, those don’t stop when you enter the workplace and need to be protected 24/7. So no doubt you’ll be happy to sign my petition to further protect our 2nd amendment right to carry a concealed weapon at work! Yeah, right there, just sign. Oh you don’t support the constitution? When you said we should bring these fights to work you meant just the ones you support. O…

I'll be honest, I wouldn't care. The left as it seems you envision is not a monolith. But this is a good example! Gun policy (and the constitution itself) are legitimate political discussions that people can have without turning into a "fight." You can even educate or advocate either side in a civil way. You could even engage in advocacy for gun owners that get murdered by police, like Philando Castile.

Post by [deleted] » Sat, May 22, 2021, 3:51 AM UTC

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A feature of US work culture is that you invest your “whole self” into work. As in work isn’t just a thing you do for money, but a calling... Additionally, there’s a lack of basic social services. Those that do well can carry guilt, this leads to USs tipping culture, among other things.. also in the US private companies wield a lot of political power and capital. Companies work in this context to attract talent. And…

Post by asdfasgasdgasdg » Sat, May 22, 2021, 3:53 AM UTC

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asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #411

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> There is nothing to suggest the man acted improperly at work. We've had this discussion already, but claiming sexist views is going to be a problem for you whether you do it at work or elsewhere because of how laws around hostile work environments and notice work. Particularly, if you go on to actually create a hostile work environment (as one might reasonably suppose you will, having publicly espoused the relevant…

You would never be able to hire a felon for anything since on that theory, the felon had done something outside of work that being a criminal act, might scare someone at work who had to work around them, even though their behavior at work was perfect.